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contrails 06-02-2016 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by WillieF15 (Post 2139096)
Thanks gents, makes more sense now. I aspire to be as deft as you are with my schedule.

There are lots of advantages of doing an inverse assignment instead of a GS.

If an inverse shows up that you want to fly, call and see if it's still available. If you end up flying it, you won't have used up GS#1 for the month yet since that's in it's own category.

Not that there is a limit to the number of GS in a month, but recall that a GS goes down the list in seniority order and if people have flown GS#2, GS#4, etc. already themselves, then if a GS that meets your preferences pops up, it will be offered to you before someone gets it as their second greenslip of the month.

What is even better than both right now on the 717 is a greenslip with conflict. Those are the "C" you see in the daily trip coverage page.

What you want to do is pickup a 2-day conflict that bumps your 4-day of f your schedule, with pay. Or pickup a 3-day that touches a 5-day. Or pickup a 4-day that touches a 5-day. etc. You want the trip being picked up to be shorter than the original one you had, or at least, the same length...because they both pay regular pay. A good deal, but only if you do it right. Picking up a 5-day that conflicts with your 2-day trip would not be a great deal...you'd be working for regular pay for three extra days and losing days off.

MSP7ERB 06-02-2016 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2137565)
Unless there is a sale for 69% off hookers and blow on the 72 hour layover of the all inclusive in the Caribbean, this is probably a poor idea. You don't even get credit towards reserve guarantee for YS flying on an XX day. It is truly flying for free unless as previously mentioned, you're already full (or plan to be by the end of the month, I think).

What equipment are you on? If it's the 717 you can't move XX days but you could always GS the trip. GSing with RES days in the mix is typically a good deal for the company but if you really want the trip, you'll be paid for block and DH on your XX day and get a PB day -- all credit will be put towards reserve guarantee. If you're on something a bit more stable like the ER then move your XX days around so the entire trip is during RES days and this way you'll be working off your guarantee and hopefully putting yourself into bucket 2 for later reserve considerations.

If you are a commuter, there are many scenarios where it works to your advantage to YS a trip on your last X day before starting a stretch of reserve. To imply and assume that such a move is a losing hand is ignorant and short sighted.

contrails 06-02-2016 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2137565)
You don't even get credit towards reserve guarantee for YS flying on an XX day. It is truly flying for free unless as previously mentioned, you're already full (or plan to be by the end of the month, I think).

That is not correct.

A yellow slip on an X day goes towards guarantee.

i.e. you have a reserve line with all of your X days in the front half and your reserve days in the back half of a month.

A 12-day trip shows up on the 2nd of the month worth 75 hrs. Yellow slip, trip awarded.

"FULL."

Entirely flown on X days.

MSP7ERB 06-02-2016 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 2139150)
That is not correct.

A yellow slip on an X day goes towards guarantee.

i.e. you have a reserve line with all of your X days in the front half and your reserve days in the back half of a month.

A 12-day trip shows up on the 2nd of the month worth 75 hrs. Yellow slip, trip awarded.

"FULL."

Entirely flown on X days.

Correct. MikeF16 is wrong and uninformed, as usual. Take what he says with a grain of salt.

MikeF16 06-03-2016 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2137592)
FYI just spoke with a friend, my info on the YS on an off day wasn't good. It apparently applies towards guarantee, which is still flying for free unless you fill up -- even at a later time.


Originally Posted by MSP7ERB (Post 2139153)
Correct. MikeF16 is wrong and uninformed, as usual. Take what he says with a grain of salt.

Edited to be a bit nicer, even though MSP7ERB really doesn't deserve it. At least Contrails just posted an unnecessary correction without the personal insult.

I corrected my original post soon after I originally posted, in fact the very next post in the thread. In an awful hurry to hit enter on your scathing reply huh?

Jughead135 06-09-2016 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 2139108)
There are lots of advantages of doing an inverse assignment instead of a GS.

One you left out, that may be important in an otherwise skinny month: IA pays double without regard to any "trigger"; a GS only pays double for that portion where one's credit is above the trigger.

To the OP, that's one of the more important practical differences between credit/no credit, btw--if you're GS'ing, make sure you know how much credit you have, otherwise you may not be getting paid what you think you're getting paid....


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