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Old 06-01-2016, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sourdough44 View Post
The bar tab shouldn't be that high anyway on a 15 hour domestic layover?

Just saying, taint the 70's anymore.
It's likely you're not in NYC!!!
I was just off OE on a 5 day and my Capt bought over $100 per night in beverages and food. He would have cut my hand off if I tried to pay. Of course, he was on a GS...But I learned a lesson on that trip...And I fully intend to pay it forward when I move left. That Capt set a way high bar, but others since then have matched it. I intend to keep that tradition alive.
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Most Captains still buy the first round, regardless of what year you were hired.

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8 year FO here. Just this week on a trip while on a GS I asked the bartender for separate checks. Captain says, "Put the beers on mine." I tried...said, I'm on a GS..seriously. Wouldn't hear any of it.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:56 AM
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:06 AM
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What's a GS?
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Old 06-01-2016, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptYoda View Post
What's a GS?
It is the NYC cost of living adjustment for FOs. Some ATL 717 FOs also receive a similar adjustment to bring them up to a living wage.

If you are really asking the meaning of GS, it stands for Green Slip, which is flying for premium pay when scheduling is out of available reserve pilots.
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Old 06-01-2016, 11:43 AM
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Sadly, I have most definitely bought myself more beer than captains have. Maybe I just drink too much beer. Maybe it's my airplane, the -88, maybe it's my base, ATL, or maybe the captains just don't like me. All I know is I am content buying my own beer, but to say the captain always buys the beer is crap because that is not my experience. FWIW, I never let my fo buy any beer when I was a regional captain making $80 per hour and I sure as hell aren't going to let my fo's buy their own beer when I'm captain here. Just an observation, a lot of my captains are the cheapest people I know. I have had to eat by myself because my captain went to fast food for dinner.
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:28 PM
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I have had a captain try to talk me into going to a soup kitchen. At least he didn't slam click?
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Old 06-01-2016, 01:48 PM
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I have had a captain try to talk me into going to a soup kitchen. At least he didn't slam click?
I was on a trip in costa rica many years ago and the capt and I were at this market that had some non-osha-fda-pickyourownalphabetsoupuselessgovtentity kitchen for the market workers. I told him Id buy if he ate there, so we did. It cost $.50, yeah fiddycent for both of us to eat. we lived.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
Sadly, I have most definitely bought myself more beer than captains have. Maybe I just drink too much beer. Maybe it's my airplane, the -88, maybe it's my base, ATL, or maybe the captains just don't like me. All I know is I am content buying my own beer, but to say the captain always buys the beer is crap because that is not my experience. FWIW, I never let my fo buy any beer when I was a regional captain making $80 per hour and I sure as hell aren't going to let my fo's buy their own beer when I'm captain here. Just an observation, a lot of my captains are the cheapest people I know. I have had to eat by myself because my captain went to fast food for dinner.
I am just coming to the end of my first year and must confess that I have had a similar experience. I always bought (at least) the first round for my crews when I was a lowly RJ captain. Fast-forward a bit and I had a great experience on my jumpseat "ride along" trip where I was LITERALLY (but good naturedly) cussed out when I reached for my wallet at the bar on day 1 by two guys who don't get a DIME extra for letting the noob tag along. While watching a sunset and smoking cigars provided by the FO, I remember thinking I had definitely made the right choice. A while later I head out on my first OE trip and have a JFK overnight at the Roosevelt. The check airman wants to go out for dinner and beers to "a place he knows". Turns out he had a coupon and then insisted on split checks. OK, a one-off cheapskate. Next night, similar experience in LAX except I think he bought the first round.

Since then, of guys who want to go out, it seems to be about 25% who don't buy a thing, 25% who pay for everything (including one guy who bought multiple rounds for both FOs and about 6 flight attendants in STR!). The other 50% are anywhere between buying 1 beer to paying the entire tab and leaving me to cover tip to buying all the beers, etc. Lots of variations on this one.

Maybe it's just me? I mean, I shower regularly, I rarely if ever fart on the flight deck, I always let the captain have first choice on crew meals, I always take the fat girl...so what am I doing wrong!?
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Old 06-01-2016, 04:11 PM
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Recently had a captain on a two day trip who said "I don't do walk arounds, but I buy the beer". Ok fine, that's his thing, I can play that game....

We eventually make it to the bar for a beer or two and when the check comes he says "I don't use my card on purchases less than $50, and don't have enough cash, so can you get the check?" Really?! So that's how it's going to be? This was after listening to his stories about his $1.5M house he just bought and his $100,000 Porsche...fortunately he is the exception and not the rule. Most captains that go out for a drink or dinner offer to buy the beer or at least the first round.
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