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Dat jet 08-01-2016 02:57 PM

It's official
 
Allegiant Captains make more than Delta A320 and MD88 Captains per hour. They use to make about 30 percent less an hour...
When Allegiant gets their future contractual pay raises, the disparity will grow

Apologists....let that sink in.

It might get ugly if our day one pay rates don't come close to matching UPS rates when using the 767-300 as a baseline.

Congrats Allegiant!!

notEnuf 08-01-2016 03:10 PM

Next year it will surpass 737-900 rates by $2/hr. Thanks for raising the bar!

Also:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...ever/87700136/

DALMD88FO 08-01-2016 03:35 PM

Yep I have a buddy that is an Allegiant Captain. Has had his app in with us for a long time. Guess what he just did...pulled his app. It will take him too long to recover from the pay haircut he would have to take to come to Delta. Not personal, just business.

notEnuf 08-01-2016 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2172223)
Yep I have a buddy that is an Allegiant Captain. Has had his app in with us for a long time. Guess what he just did...pulled his app. It will take him too long to recover from the pay haircut he would have to take to come to Delta. Not personal, just business.

Tell him to keep the app in. We are certain to get an industry leading contract. If he gets the call prior to that, then he can just no show. Our VP of Flight Ops has spoken, industry leading contract and no shows are not a problem.

JamesBond 08-01-2016 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2172223)
Yep I have a buddy that is an Allegiant Captain. Has had his app in with us for a long time. Guess what he just did...pulled his app. It will take him too long to recover from the pay haircut he would have to take to come to Delta. Not personal, just business.

Yeah because our payrates will come nowhere the mighty Allegiant. Great move on his part. (I just rode the jumpseat with a 2 year FO that has a bid to the left seat, so he's right. It will take forever to catch back up. :rolleyes:


Woe is us.

sailingfun 08-01-2016 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dat jet (Post 2172203)
Allegiant Captains make more than Delta A320 and MD88 Captains per hour. They use to make about 30 percent less an hour...
When Allegiant gets their future contractual pay raises, the disparity will grow

Apologists....let that sink in.

It might get ugly if our day one pay rates don't come close to matching UPS rates when using the 767-300 as a baseline.

Congrats Allegiant!!

So when you add in the 20 plus percent PS, 18% DC, 200% overtime they are better off? How do they compare when you use the companies current table position? The only surprise is that they are not better paid. After all relative to size aren't they the most profitable airline in the world?

80ktsClamp 08-01-2016 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2172367)
So when you add in the 20 plus percent PS, 18% DC, 200% overtime they are better off? How do they compare when you use the companies current table position? The only surprise is that they are not better paid. After all relative to size aren't they the most profitable airline in the world?

PS guaranteed, 18% DC? I'll take you to task the same as PD, sailing.

sailingfun 08-02-2016 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2172381)
PS guaranteed, 18% DC? I'll take you to task the same as PD, sailing.

We are the only airline where PS is pensionable. In fact with where the PS looks like it will come in at in Feb and if we have a contract by then the DC will be about 19.5% for next year.

Hank Kingsley 08-02-2016 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2172429)
We are the only airline where PS is pensionable. In fact with where the PS looks like it will come in at in Feb and if we have a contract by then the DC will be about 19.5% for next year.

C'mon man! They want it back with concessions.

Purple Drank 08-02-2016 05:06 AM

Sailingfud and Tsquare strike again. A quick deal is better than a good deal, right, fud And Tsqaure? To heck with the guys with 25 or 30 years to live under the work rules you want to give away. You want more money and less time off NOW.

Fortunately, the pilot group will not allow it. The first "no" vote is the hardest. It will take an overwhelmingly industry-leading contract... Or the next "no" will be easy for the vast majority of us.

It is interesting how the old gang has re-emerged, trying their disingenuous (and thoroughly debunked) persuasion methods.


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