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badflaps 08-09-2016 12:34 PM

I think their is some sort of censorship.... I haven't seen the ad for the girl that lives 3.2 miles from me in some time.

Hawaii50 08-09-2016 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2177129)
I think their is some sort of censorship.... I haven't seen the ad for the girl that lives 3.2 miles from me in some time.

And no sign of Jesse for years. Total lack of under boob. Good to have Sink back though. This place is much better with input from everywhere.

CheapTrick 08-09-2016 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2177129)
I think their is some sort of censorship.... I haven't seen the ad for the girl that lives 3.2 miles from me in some time.

The Blond or the Redhead? The Redhead was here this morning.

awax 08-09-2016 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 2177072)
I don't think that is quite so, unless you're saying that APC is advocating for certain people or policies at Delta?

I don't know who owns the site, but I imagine traffic is important. I bet you discussions stimulate traffic more than conformity does.

All I can tell ya is read the forum terms of service and rules. It spells out in pretty clear language that the owners of the site can remove content or users at their sole discretion. If you want to find out more, there's a big link on the bottom of every single page with the owner's info and forum rules.

Sink r8 08-09-2016 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Kabosh (Post 2177126)
There is no such thing as free speech (1st Amendment Rights) on a privately owned forum.

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Originally Posted by awax (Post 2177158)
All I can tell ya is read the forum terms of service and rules. It spells out in pretty clear language that the owners of the site can remove content or users at their sole discretion. If you want to find out more, there's a big link on the bottom of every single page with the owner's info and forum rules.

Thanks. You guy are correct, and after a quick read of the TOU, I can see there is no implied guarantee of free speech here. Nonetheless, I don't think it serves the owners well to have a group of people suppress another's opinion, especially if they are moderators. Under the TOU, moderators have surprisingly little authority to represent the owners.

I've never investigated the motives of APC. I don't think their purpose is to take sides in discussions that respect the TOU, however. So maybe this isn't exactly free speech, but it's probably not about managed opinions either.

If a moderator wants to change my title to "APC Moderators Suppressing Opinions on Major/Delta?" be my guest.

Purple Drank 08-09-2016 02:02 PM

Wow. Interesting theory. And defending an obscure, inflammatory post by rube. Bravo. Are you rube?

Anyway, you (at least the sinkr8 screen name) seem to be ramping up your presence after slinking away following your shameful conduct as a guy collecting our dues money to sell TA15; not disclosing it until pressed; and then doubling down on it.

It's no surprise you're back at the same time curly, Harwood, Spain, Parker, and their lackeys have spooled up on Facebook. It's clear your loyalty is not to the pilot group, but to your handlers who are now pressing hard to get back on the gravy train.

Let's try a credibility check.

- Looking back, are you sorry for your support of TA15?
- Do you regret joining the sales team?
- Why did you attempt to spin the failed TA as a win for us?
- Why are you ringing for these miserable AIPs?

gzsg 08-09-2016 02:10 PM

Whatever Mike Spain is selling, we want the opposite.

I'm happy Curls and Parker post on Facebook. Then we know what management is up to.

More DCI 76 jets are next!

They are saving our Bacon and feeding the widebodies.

Oh wait......

Sink r8 08-09-2016 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 2177175)
Wow. Interesting theory. And defending an obscure, inflammatory post by rube. Bravo. Are you rube?

Anyway, you (at least the sinkr8 screen name) seem to be ramping up your presence after slinking away following your shameful conduct as a guy collecting our dues money to sell TA15; not disclosing it until pressed; and then doubling down on it.

It's no surprise you're back at the same time curly, Harwood, Spain, Parker, and their lackeys have spooled up on Facebook. It's clear your loyalty is not to the pilot group, but to your handlers who are now pressing hard to get back on the gravy train.

Let's try a credibility check.

- Looking back, are you sorry for your support of TA15?
- Do you regret joining the sales team?
- Why did you attempt to spin the failed TA as a win for us?
- Why are you ringing for these miserable AIPs?

Hi Purple,

Information is always amusing. Have you read the TOU's? Seems like there is a lot defamatory stuff in the post above that you can't back up. And of course it's explicitly not cool toying with other people's identities. Ad hominem drive-bys don't seem to be part of the TOU's either.

And I'm neither ramping, nor was I slinking. I'm here. I am a legitimate user, and I choose to post now.

...

As far as Rube's post, have you read it? Do you have a basis for being dismissive of it?

capncrunch 08-09-2016 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 2177035)
Still lurking for rumors, and baffled by the lack of leaks on this normally fertile ground, considering the rumors that are floating in various venues. It's impressive how conforming everything is on these pages nowadays. I see you still have a few token dissenters, but for the most part all forums are really nice feedback loops for one set of ideas.

I guess it's not accidental.

One guy that I read for a little different take is Rube. He had a post that seemed to highlight the issues surrounding our contract pretty well, as well as a bit of information about a rep that wasn't flattering, but seemed to accurately quote a post by that rep.

What happened to it?

Too con-conforming?

Looking to Rube for accuracy? That's hilarious.

Big E 757 08-09-2016 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 2177207)
Looking to Rube for accuracy? That's hilarious.

That's how they roll. I've got $100, and I can't prove otherwise, that SinkR8's alter-ego is rube....and he wrote a piece he feels is worthy of reading, and he's upset no one here is commenting on it.

Pathetic. You're a 2007 hire, right sink?


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