I think there are at least 3 guys with multiple log-ins on here.

Apparently, they're done complaining about social media and have decided to embrace it with multiple personalities in an attempt to control the message. They will all go away after contract time.

APC's motivations??? Create income through ad revenue, same as most social media outlets. The site was sold awhile back, now its just one of many subject specific sites held by an investment group. Sorry to burst your bubble, but APC is what it says it is. No agenda except to draw eyeballs to ads.

Try:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/index.php

or

http://thehangar.forumchitchat.com/

or

http://www.cyclechat.net/

I didn't say accuracy, I said I was looking for rumors. His post was interesting enough.

You think you deserve to be heard more than him, or less?

That makes sense to me too. So they're dispassionate, and they want ad revenues.

If I read the TOU correctly, they own the site, and the moderators don't. So if they do a nice dispassionate analysis of their numbers, and they look at hits, I guess they can look at before this was controlled by a few guys with a single agenda, and after. They used to allow contrasted viewpoints, and we were strict with personal conduct. Now it's the other way around.

I haven't been here much, and many of the guys I work with feel that it's a handful of guys, so it's not really worth it. Is this reflected in the numbers? I have no idea. I just suspect that the broader the audience, the more growth they see in revenue. I think credibility and drama grow both revenue. It's all pretty simple.

What's also pretty simple is that they would clearly know if I'm rube or not.

So, deflections aside, I just want to know... Can we see rube's terrible post, minus the expletive he quoted, or not? Over 4,600 posts, I've had three minor infractions. The offensive part was redacted, the rest remained. Not a single Delta mod ever touched one of my posts.

So what's this latest obsession with manipulating content?

This is a new tack. Attempting to impeach social media with some sort of conspiracy theory that APC hates the people who pushed TA15.
If you can't win on social media...try to trash it. Was that your idea, or did one of your handlers asign it to you?

Good luck with that, my man.

Speaking of deflections, sinkr8, please refocus on these.

I can't answer your question, maybe the mods can. My own cynicism makes me think since there is no talking points or sales agenda or flight pay loss only a few contrarians remain. These would be hardliner political types who have their own agenda. I can only speak for myself but I welcome the debate. If you are outnumbered and are rebuffed that tells me the majority supports the rebuttal or more would come to the defense of the original argument. Just my $0.02.

Your theory sounds a bit grandiose.

Sounds to me like APC is simply a business. I've learned a couple of things today about the TOU's (facts are always interesting), not a lot about APC. But I assume there is an Administrator that balances out the various participants based on the business interests of the owners, and that it's generally in the business interests of the owners to run a nice, clean, credible forum with as much attendance as possible. I guess getting lurkers is important. I think lurkers get turned off trying to figure out the sound of one hand clapping.

So I guess the Administrator oversees the moderators, and if the moderators show too much of a bias, and it squelches discussions, removes threads that get views, then that's bad for business. All pretty simple, really.

I defended your rights to be here anonymously when you got here. It was a bit of a rocky start, as I recall. I defended Carl's right to anonymity when he was under attack, and I'll speak out for rube's right to post, even if his views are inconvenient to you. They might be of interest to Delta pilots. He had a rumor of a number the company was offering, and I wanted to have a discussion about it at home.

Yep, we don't allow contrary opinions. Its so obvious, the thread that says we suppress free speech was instantly deleted.................oh wait, never-mind.

All opinions are welcome as long as they are respectful and honor the TOU.

Scoop

I think the eyeballs are all looking at new hire stuff. This one sub sub sub section of a forum that is embedded in an industry information site is not a priority, I'm guessing. I think the site makes the money the owners expect or changes would have been made.

Lets discuss it now. I read it and I think rubes number was 19%. Probably a trial balloon floated. I'd take 19% in a pay only LOA while we stay in sect. 6 to negotiate the rest. American seems to think that good will has value.

Thanks Scoop. What was disrespectful about the post that couldn't be cleared up?