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Danger Close 08-28-2016 04:39 PM

Extracurricular Flying
 
I've seen it more at the other Majors but trying to get a bead on DL's practices. From what I've read, because of Delta Private Jets there is a conflict of interest in any sort of 135/91 flying while working for Delta. Any other stories out there?

gloopy 08-28-2016 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Danger Close (Post 2190376)
I've seen it more at the other Majors but trying to get a bead on DL's practices. From what I've read, because of Delta Private Jets there is a conflict of interest in any sort of 135/91 flying while working for Delta. Any other stories out there?

The DL PWA addresses this, as I'm sure DPJ policy does. What exactly are you asking?

sailingfun 08-29-2016 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by Danger Close (Post 2190376)
I've seen it more at the other Majors but trying to get a bead on DL's practices. From what I've read, because of Delta Private Jets there is a conflict of interest in any sort of 135/91 flying while working for Delta. Any other stories out there?

What is your question?

GogglesPisano 08-29-2016 02:15 AM

I think he might be asking if you're allowed to do any outside flying as a Delta pilot. The answer: No outside flying for scheduled carriers and nothing that would create a conflict of interest in a business sense.

gloopy 08-29-2016 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2190563)
I think he might be asking if you're allowed to do any outside flying as a Delta pilot. The answer: No outside flying for scheduled carriers and nothing that would create a conflict of interest in a business sense.

He said "because of DPJ" blah blah blah "conflict at Delta" but Shirley he can't possibly be asking if he gets on with Delta can he still fly for DPJ. That would be hilarious.

crazyjaydawg 08-29-2016 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2190787)
He said "because of DPJ" blah blah blah "conflict at Delta" but Shirley he can't possibly be asking if he gets on with Delta can he still fly for DPJ. That would be hilarious.



I think the question was more, "if I'm at Delta and can pick up a trip at Bob's 135 would that be prohibited because it's a conflict of interest with DPJ?"

Danger Close 08-29-2016 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 2190855)
I think the question was more, "if I'm at Delta and can pick up a trip at Bob's 135 would that be prohibited because it's a conflict of interest with DPJ?"

More like Bob's Pt 91 Global 5000. I think I'll just err on the side of caution and stow away the type and get comfortable in my MadDog:rolleyes:

crazyjaydawg 08-29-2016 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Danger Close (Post 2191243)
More like Bob's Pt 91 Global 5000. I think I'll just err on the side of caution and stow away the type and get comfortable in my MadDog:rolleyes:



You can fly a Bombardier at Delta starting next year...[emoji41]

Lifeisgood 08-30-2016 05:39 AM

Over the years I have flown with several pilots who flew commercially on the side.
135/91, mostly commuters from Florida.
There is a form on flt ops site you need to fill out asking for company approval.

Timbo 08-30-2016 06:11 AM

Or how about being a simulator instructor for some other company, while also flying for DL?

Any commercial flying you do outside Delta still counts against your FAR max, but the simulator doesn't.

Lifeisgood 08-30-2016 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 2191543)
Or how about being a simulator instructor for some other company, while also flying for DL?

Any commercial flying you do outside Delta still counts against your FAR max, but the simulator doesn't.

I've bumped into a few who have done that at FSI and FTI. Fun for a while, but the pay is so-so and the motivation dwindles.
" I can pick up a 2 day trip at DAL and that will equal 4 days of teaching over there".
Also liability was catching up to FTI after a few accidents.

tomgoodman 08-30-2016 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Danger Close (Post 2191243)
I think I'll just err on the side of caution and stow away the type and get comfortable in my MadDog:rolleyes:

If you ever feel comfortable in a MadDog, you have probably gone to the wrong gate and are not in a MadDog! :D

DAL757 08-30-2016 03:08 PM

Just keep in mind any paid flying, even 91, will count against your 121 limits if it is before any 121 flying. You can fly 91 after 121 all you like. But, if it falls before 121 it must be counted and that's why it's usually prohibited because it's impossible for the company to track.

UnusualAttitude 08-30-2016 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by DAL757 (Post 2191946)
Just keep in mind any paid flying, even 91, will count against your 121 limits if it is before any 121 flying. You can fly 91 after 121 all you like. But, if it falls before 121 it must be counted and that's why it's usually prohibited because it's impossible for the company to track.

According to ALPA's Part 117 guide only flying performed for a certificate holder (i.e. 121 or 135) or Part 91K (fractional ownership program) is counted towards determining cumulative limits.

See ALPA 117 guide Q 66 and A 66 found on page 17 of guide dated 11/19/13.

I'm no expert and maybe I'm reading it wrong. I just think they dropped the requirement to track hours flying plain old part 91 when they adopted 117.

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