instead...how about you inform us, specifically and with documentation, how you ended up money ahead?

the only ones here requiring 'professional help' are those like yourself, with deep seated issues surrounding their being associated with a professional peer group they consider intellectually inferior.

again...you appear as the cop on the scene, to once again tell a bloodied and battered assault victim...'stop your complaining, its not that bad'.

Well now there's three of us.........

You guys are truly heroic.

In addition to your courageous postings here, have you ever done anything else to help your fellow pilots in the u-n-i-o-n?

If you have, you have my thanks. If you haven't, that's fine too. There's no obligation. But the self-congratulations rampant on here is often from guys whose biggest contribution to the effort is to strip down to their underwear, grab some Cheetos and a bottle of Jeremiah Weed, and fire up the ol' basement computer.

recognizing selling each other out is a bad thing...is not 'courageous'.

it is essential to the survival and 'leverage' of being part of a collective bargaining employee group.

your post drips with the condescension and arrogance of most alpa operatives I have dealt with for just about 30 years now.

So, nothing. In thirty years.

Perhaps that's why you've been disappointed with the results? Maybe they just needed your help.

So you have a secret camera in my basement too? Damn you Mantooth!

I meant to tell you, your water heater is leaking!

and yet again. you guys simply cant help yourselves.

if you were among those who were able to benefit from the airline employees retirement savings recovery act.....I will simply say....you are welcome.

too bad my additional 'help' suggesting once the AERSRA was in place we petition national alpa to use the MCF to set up a rotating bridge loan program to enable the fullest participation was laughed out of the room.

otherwise more of us might be money ahead, along with mr. sailing.

If you helped, you have my thanks. Sincerely.

Sailing, I have no idea why you continue to gloss over the Pre '72er's, they have little or no pensions, but they are dropping one by one, so pretty soon the massacre will have never happened.