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cornbeef007 12-22-2016 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by qball (Post 2267608)
Several good points but I'm not feeling sorry for anyone who tries to connect from SWA to an RJ (hard enough to go from our mainline to an RJ at MSP) That would be a project at DTW as well.

Good point but still not at the same caliber of fail.

I speak from the perspective of an open mind and unbiased opinion:)

GogglesPisano 12-22-2016 09:33 AM

I like MSP. But since Captain Vernon Demerest and Mel Bakersfeld retired it's never been the same.

Packrat 12-22-2016 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 2267605)
Yes the airport has some nice shopping and food options. In virtually all other respects KMSP is a great case study for failed civil engineering and mismanagement.

MSP was a great airport...in 1965. Now its a classic example of trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

DrunkIrishman 12-22-2016 09:49 AM

Southwest flies out of Terminal 2 so yes it would be incredibly difficult to connect to an rj.

MSP airport has offered to build Delta a $1.3 billion terminal and send all other airlines to Terminal 2.

Oma4545 12-22-2016 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman (Post 2267627)
Southwest flies out of Terminal 2 so yes it would be incredibly difficult to connect to an rj.

MSP airport has offered to build Delta a $1.3 billion terminal and send all other airlines to Terminal 2.

I can think of a few airports that have invested bookoo bucks for an airline. In most cases, it doesn't work out for the airport.

cornbeef007 12-22-2016 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman (Post 2267627)
Southwest flies out of Terminal 2 so yes it would be incredibly difficult to connect to an rj.

MSP airport has offered to build Delta a $1.3 billion terminal and send all other airlines to Terminal 2.

I believe the lack of a commitment by Delta for such a project is twofold:

1) Delta would need to empower MAC (Minneapolis Airport Commission) to organize and execute such a project. History has shown an abysmal track record of Minneapolis airport improvements for even the simplest tasks. I imagine that in the eyes of Delta, this would likely lead to a cataclysmic failure of epic proportions unlike anything experienced in the history of the world. At least leaving it as the **** sandwich it is now, Delta keeps that variable quantifiable and in check.

2) Minneapolis will likely see a financial downturn as it has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the country. The number of Fortune 500 companies within the state are dwindling as time passes. My guess is that Delta is taking this into account with the decision to go ahead with the new terminal. They don't want another Cincinnati.

Banzai 12-22-2016 03:12 PM

MSP is definitely a dated design. There are far worse airports in our network, but there are also many that are far better. MSP has a lot of glitter adorning an inefficient design.

And, god, the bathroom situation is awful. Worst just about anywhere. A fraction of the size needed for such a busy facility. And trying to get kids through them is a nightmare.

What I wouldn't give for a facility as state-of-the-art as DTW, or ATL.

To say that there's no reason to expand because of some kind of inevitable economic downturn is really just specious opinion. There's no sign of that, and great cities tend to attract and retain jobs no matter what. Most studies show that while companies really like extracting tax breaks from municipalities, in the end they locate where they want to locate anyway, whether they get the breaks or not. But by this line of reasoning, I suppose we should give up on SEA, and NYC, and SFO, and the list goes on and on with many thriving communities.

CoefficientX 12-22-2016 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Banzai (Post 2267828)
And, god, the bathroom situation is awful. Worst just about anywhere. A fraction of the size needed for such a busy facility. And trying to get kids through them is a nightmare.

The masses see it otherwise.........

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/news/2016/11/21/msp-airport-bathrooms-voted-best-in-america.html

overspeed 12-22-2016 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by CoefficientX (Post 2267860)

Maybe they're trying to recover from this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal

CoefficientX 12-22-2016 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by overspeed (Post 2267865)
Maybe they're trying to recover from this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig_scandal

Ouch! Had to go there didn't you..


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