New hire busts are rumored to be up substantially. Years ago it was almost unheard of for someone to require extra periods.

If you need any advice how to bid with LCAs and then fly the trip send me a PM. I had 6 in a row with no OE, on trip 7 I was finally able to use some PB days to send the trip back to the pot (but not enough room under the pickup limit to get it back) and the company ended up buying that one :).

LCA trip buys are affected by many factors - by far the most important is your base. NYC and ATL are where the action is. In LAX on the 73N most senior guys have abandoned the buddy bidding.

I used to do it quite a bit but like the poster above always put in enough qualifiers to get a good trip.

Scoop

That's because years ago we had a real training program not the firehose method we have now.:D

I have an upcoming trip with an LCA. icrew is showing that the captain will be giving OE that trip and I will be bought off. I made a quick check of the contract and couldn't locate what the recovery obligation is for me in this scenario. Anyone have experience with this?

Thanks in advance.

They will call you the night prior ~1700 and release you. They'll specifically tell you that there is no recovery obligation. You're free to GS or stay home and enjoy the some paid time off. I think you can WS as well...could be wrong.

No recovery obligation if released. You can WS, GS or pick up a trip from pilot-to-pilot swap board. It's as if the trip was never on your line, except the trip dropped is pay and credit, so the "pickup limit" shown on your schedule will still include the credit from the dropped trip. Any WS you pick up will have to keep you under the "pickup limit." GS or picking up a trip from the pilot swap baord aren't limited but the pickup limit.

Does it just show that in the comments on the rotation? I have a trip next month with a LCA. Hoping for a 5 day paid vacation.

It will show up on the rotation with an "L" in front of each of the individual flight numbers that are being used for training. There will also be something in the notes section explaining what is happening. However, it doesn't usually show up until a couple of days prior to the report. I've had it show up 5 days prior, and I've seen it less than 24 hours prior, so it's not super easy to plan around it.

Shows in a "training remarks" section of the icrew rotation which is below pilot names and also shows "OE" to the right of equipment type on each leg and also an "L" before flight number.

It names the FO who will be receiving OE. I'm thinking of contacting him to offer him any tutoring he might need to insure he passes training ; )

Again thank you to the others for your quick replies.