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Old 01-22-2017 | 10:24 AM
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So the driver shows up 25 minutes after you call and doesn't load your bags and you're still tipping him/her $1/bag?

The hell outta here. The van shows up on time, or within a reasonable amount of time and loads the bags he gets my tip. A tip isn't guaranteed. It's extra for doing extra.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
So the driver shows up 25 minutes after you call and doesn't load your bags and you're still tipping him/her $1/bag?

The hell outta here. The van shows up on time, or within a reasonable amount of time and loads the bags he gets my tip. A tip isn't guaranteed. It's extra for doing extra.
How often does that happen? I've had maybe two van rides in ten years of 121 and many more Part 135 where I've had to lift my own bags. As to them arriving a bit late, big deal. I'm pretty tired of crews thinking they're some sort of royalty. Get over yourselves.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by thevagabond
How often does that happen? I've had maybe two van rides in ten years of 121 and many more Part 135 where I've had to lift my own bags. As to them arriving a bit late, big deal. I'm pretty tired of crews thinking they're some sort of royalty. Get over yourselves.
This is the reason we have an entitlement generation. Giving someone a tip for doing their job, allows them to think they should be rewarded for minimum effort.

Don't feed the animals in the park. They'll become dependent on the food and not hunt for themselves.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
This is the reason we have an entitlement generation. Giving someone a tip for doing their job, allows them to think they should be rewarded for minimum effort.

Don't feed the animals in the park. They'll become dependent on the food and not hunt for themselves.
How did this conversation turn to SNAP tickets?
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Old 01-22-2017 | 11:32 AM
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Old 01-22-2017 | 11:38 AM
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When I took a 50% paycut during the downturn, my van drivers suffered too. I stocked up on 50 cent coins. Any bewildered looks were answered with " sorry dude, times are tough. - but nice job, thanks for the ride." Thankfully for everybody involved, one dollar bills are back, but they are not automatic. The tip is still for service of a minimum degree, or reflective of extra efforts. If I'm alone or it's an obvious lengthy journey that mathematically precludes many tip cycles in their day, or if I perceive " stiffing" by others, I usually up the ante.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 11:49 AM
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Good grief, give the driver a buck or 2. No matter how much your pay was cut or how bad an injustice you feel you have suffered, I'm pretty sure the guy relegated to driving the van needs it more than you.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 11:56 AM
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Assuming a 4 day trip, are some of you really fretting over $6? Fairly certain tipping a minimum wage van driver isn't what is causing societal decay and/or an entitlement generation.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow


Assuming a 4 day trip, are some of you really fretting over $6? Fairly certain tipping a minimum wage van driver isn't what is causing societal decay and/or an entitlement generation.
Most van drivers don't make minimum wage. In some cities they start out at $15-16 per hour.

Tip = Appreciation for doing a good job, not for simply doing their job.

Here's an ad for the company that handles our transportation in SFO. Notice the "starting" wage:

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Old 01-22-2017 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
I do love giving my money away, because $2 to me is literally nothing, and it means a lot more to the recipient.

Pay it forward. Try it sometime.
I probably make 1/5 or 1/6 what you make on a yearly basis so $2 each time to me equals $8 per 3 day trip. At 5 trips per month (average) that's $40...about 1 hour of work (1.25% of my total income).

If a driver does a "good" job they get a tip (ie a reward), if not...they just get their salary from their employer for doing their job.
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