Delta is sending every RJ it actually owns to Endeavor.

To include the handful at Skywest?

It wouldn’t surprise me if we got those 900s. I saw one with a PQ tail out of LGA the other day.

Wait, Skywest is flying 900s into LGA for DL?

The flying split will be 44% 9E, 28% RW/OO each.

They flew one in the other day to cover for an E175 wth a MX issue. But don’t expect to see OO 900s in LGA as a common thing.

There is no path for YX (that's Republic now, not RW) to 28% without either the Compass birds or the GoJet birds. And no path for OO to 28% without giving up airplanes, even if you exclude 50 seat flying...

Well I can remember the day when BB had to take the old Independence Air CRJs out of the desert to cover the CO flying when Expressjet kept 60ish EMB 145s as branded flying instead of returning them to Continental for RP to fly. BB came in during a break in recurrent training, and when asked if this meant we would be getting more Bombardier products, he said the CRJs would only be on the certificate until the day came he could send them back to the desert and replace them with EMB 145s. He then went on to elaborate on how inferior the Bombardier CRJ products were in comparison to the 145 and 175.

Not saying BB wouldn't do anything to make money, but he hates CRJs, and that came right out of BBs mouth.

Making sure no one forgets that we hold the moral (and financial) high ground, is probably not what he had in mind by not being douches about it.

Yes...long term plan. Any regional carrier that is operating non Delta flights compromise the brand. Delta wants loyalty long term and will see that through in phases throughout the next couple years. In the end, 9E will operate all "regional" flying for Delta, which in turn, will provide a "seamless" experience for their loyal passengers.

Unless you're being sarcastic I can't see this happening, at least not anytime soon. Skywest is too big and own their airplanes. RPA is also of decent size. We are already scraping the bottom of the barrel for pilots even with the "industry leading pay". DL will have to purchase all those airplanes from them or buy new ones, get the 175s on our cert, hire enough to cover that plus the CRJs, etc, etc, plus we're still a regional so they want to be able to make sure we behave, and making us the only one would make it where we could pretty much do whatever we wanted. And if you want to talk about seamless experience, look at a Skywest cabin crew and look at one of our NYC cabin crews. I mean, when DL's "gold standard" regional hires FAs that can't pronounce the word "salmon" correctly to those lovely first class pax TW and company all but ask us to perfrom oral on while wearing our hats, I think there's a long way to go towards "seamlessness".

Lol, I hear ya. Last thing I heard about Endeavor and Delta had us doing 46%, I think.

DL just awarded 30 E175SC to OO - that is a 12 year contract. Why would they do that if they want one regional?

Because they don't. Even if they did, it would be physically impossible because they wouldn't be able to staff us to that level, and it would still probably take 12 years to implement. I would believe they'll give us all of their owned CRJs since the only ones left really are the gojet ones and the few skywest has, and we have shown the ability to perform fairly well against the odds in NYC with the CRJ. Will be interesting to see how well OO does in LGA however. Looks like they lost their last selling point that there's no NYC base.

Because their CapEx on that order was zero...

OO is going no where so long as they own those gates.

Majors will not allow a single regional to provide their feed. It gives the pilot group too much leverage.

Name one that does.

I believe Alaska did that with Horizon for many years until Skywest came along about 5-6 years ago.

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I'm sorry, but there is nothing factual about this long-term plan. Delta doesn't want loyalty. That's an opinion. No plan and no filing suggests that 9E will do all regional flying. That's pure conjecture, and I'm certainly in the know.

They did this because OO purchased the planes with options for more. This represents a massive cost saving for DL as OO does their own finance and mx for wet fee from DL. To respect the DL pilots (CBA2015), OO will park their EV-tailed 700s upon receipt of SCs.

That’s bold, even by APC standards. :D

Interesting numbers from our COO’s email. He states hiring only 20 pilots a month to cover attrition. From Alpa emails our attrition is around 30 a month. That’s a net loss of 10+ pilots every month. I don’t see any short term growth here.

30 a month includes SSP attrition that is basically now over. That was ~16/month that’s now done

My belief is they’re trying to adjust for the overstaffing on the FO side. The latest seniority list which was broken down by position by one or our pilots shows 400 pilots on just NYC 900 fo (accounting for 18-02 movement) and if they got by with 200 lines for May, they probably only need 300 pilots total to staff summer including reserves. Assuming 50 of those ny 900 pilots will still be in training or on leaves, we’re overstaffed by like 50 in just one seat / base.

All those months of hiring 30 over attrition for a net growth of just 16 planes caught up to them.

Also , since DGi *interviews* won’t start until September while the last SSP guys leave in June, there will probably be several months (July through probably November) where our attrition is lower than 30-35.

That may be because Delta is about to announce its University pathway program that has been in the works for years.

Doesn't that take four years or is there a new AA 2 year plan in the works?

Nope. The 175SCs are a replacement for the 30 XJT 700s that are being taken out of service. OO isn’t taking any of their 700s out of service.

Seems about par for the course to me...;)