Will Endeavor Air merge with Compass
 

What are current endeavor pilots opinion of compass contract ending on 2020. Will delta buy compass and merge with with endeavor or buy compass and keep it a seperate company

I like how both options involve Delta buying Compass.

Neither,Republic is buying both EDV and CPZ

Only if Delta self finances the deal and the deal in turn will drive the buying company into bankruptcy.

Good chance RP ends up with Compass (along with the rest of TSH) and the Gojet 700s end up at Endeavor, but BB despises CRJs almost as much as he despises turboprops and 50 seaters, so its hard to see how he ever agrees to buy 9E.

I still think this is most likely. Even though these rumors have died down. But who knows.

I've decided not gonna engage (as much) is these discussions anymore.

More important things to worry about

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Like not sticking around EDV long enough to see any of it happen.

I'd say neither - I don't see DL buying another regional carrier, especially not one they worked hard to get rid of.

It's not so much of Delta buying Compass. It has everything to do with consolidating cost by having more control over Delta's Ejet assets. Less overhead goals. Delta has decided that the only way to do that without disrupting the CZ planes flight plan, is to acquire the entire Operator's Certificate. In other words buy the airline up and come what may with the parties involved.

Funny on ask Ed anything. He talks about sustainability and getting rid of regional Jets as part of the solution.

Funny thing is as he is saying that Delta is putting a bunch of new E-jets into service with Skywest

Delta has already decided this now?

We’re not merging with compass

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Second. The motion carries.

who do y’all work for? I thought we already merged with CP?

�� training in the same brick house fur years now.

That's been the case since the day Compass was created by NWA. Nothing to see there.

So let’s say Delta acquires the Compass operating certificate, they would get the DL E175s which they already own and then return the AA 175s to American and they’d have plenty of staffing and pilots. Sounds like a rough transition possibly.

When Ed says regional jets, he is referring to the 50 seaters only.

Well of course, or he'd be forced to lump the B-717's in the conversation.... they have about 300 miles less range than the CRJ900 and what, 500 less than the E-175?

So Delta sold Compass to TSH 8 years ago, and are now considering buying them back? :rolleyes:

Bill said...
 

Had a good convo with the 9E CEO a couple weeks ago and he said the acquisition with "?" (compass planes) will be worked out soon. Announcement coming thereafter in which he stated..."you will be very happy about the outcome":cool:

Not unless it's a merger by date of hire.

No merger....acquiring aircraft not pilots. No more DCI flying by Compass soon.

Then I take it we are parking more 200's because otherwise I don't see how we possibly have enough captains to take on all the Delta owned E-175's at Compass

I know at least 2 more went to the desert on Sunday. My sources say we have personnel training for the 175 currently. Program has spooled back up since it was put on a shelf in 2016.

There would be so many moving parts to this if it indeed happens. You got American airplanes on that certificate as well. And I’m wondering if TSA would want the pilots?

I don't see how TSA could afford to lose those pilots. That's why I doubt they will entertain a merger unless Delta buys all of TSH.

Reshuffle!

Remember when RJET took over a bunch of Ejet delivery positions from a EU operator when they announced those @50 additional Ejets for UAL pre-bankruptcy? I think it may have been FlyBE, but my memory is fuzzy.

I do, however, vividly remember being in recurrent class a day or two after that announcement. Wayne Heller himself came in to talk to us, I imagine since he knew that spirits would be high. He told us that before they were able to secure those additional delivery slots, Republic had been in talks with Bombardier to buy CRJ 900s to do that flying.

If Bedford sees a way to make more money or better position his company, nothing is off the table.

More to the point, the west coast flying will have to go to someone. As well as the gates and maintenance. LOTS of moving parts, and transitions are always more costly than steady-state.

American recently announced that it’s cutting ties with ExpressJet and TSA. In 2019. I would guess that is Compass too

My guess (personal prediction) is that endeavor will just take the airplanes and will just park as many 200s as needed for staffing. A “we’re adding 36 E175s and parking 21 200s for a net growth of 15” type deal. It’s no secret delta wants the 200s gone and the “3 regional, 45% of DCI” plan thrown around by EDV management also includes Endeavor being a dual-class only airline.

If this actually takes place. Realize 9e pilots have no say at all. We haven’t undercut anyone. Exactly the opposite.

The joke is gonna be on the 9E guys when Grandpa Hulas buys Endeavor and brings them under the Trans States umbrella. Better start brushing up on ze German so you'll know how to use LIDO and Iocc