Delta easier from Skywest or Endeavor
 

I had just finished IOE at SW when EDV called for interview. I could use the extra money but not at the expense of career progression. How long is reserve time at EDV most Jr base? Any advice is welcome.

It's all about the strength of your resume. But hear you are guaranteed an interview, there you aren't. And for those uninformed, getting the interview is not easy. Even with an internal rec it's crazy hard to get called. Your might end up with a slight edge here because of how integrated we are with Delta's systems and culture. Plus the company is putting together an internal prep class to help with the interview (in addition to the leadership class for the SSP guys).


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Only come here if it will behoove your QOL. Otherwise it doesn’t matter where you go, it all depends on YOU and what kind of candidate you are in the eyes of Delta.

While YES, I agree that you shouldn't sacrifice SIGNIFICANT qol to come here, if you're someone who might have a harder time standing out from the crowd, it might benefit you to do the guaranteed interview here.

Average GPA, no military, no volunteer experience, no check airman, no instructor, a couple failures.... You might not ever get a call somewhere else, at least here you can get a shot.


But, if you can live in base somewhere else do that!

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I ran into a Skywest Captain yesterday and he was telling me that Skywest runs their PBS, awards their schedules, and then adds involuntary straight pay "company need" trips on top of their PBS awarded schedule. Evidently for this guy, they put 2 trips right on top of a stretch of days off he needed and was awarded off in PBS.

Their open time pays either 115%, 130% or 150% while all of ours is 150% and often 200%. Not to mention our pay rates are $25+ an hour more at straight pay.

We complain about our 4.5 hour day room requirement, apparently Skywest's is 6 hours.

I agree living in base is awesome but it sounded to me like the QOL of life here is sooooo much better.

Frankly I couldn't believe what he was saying with regard to what kind of treatment they get. Keeping in mind they don't have a contract at all, so there's no union protection from any of it.

Pick a regional you could tolerate for 10+ years because you never know when that 2.5 year touch and go turns into 15.

QOL will have to wait in my case since I have to commute regardless of the Airline. What worries me is career progression. It's no secret SW compensation sucks, however I can progress fairly quick. What's the estimated time from 1st week of training to holding a line at EDV?

That all depends on equipment and base. By progression, do you mean making CA or do you mean getting to DL?

Good question, yes upgrading and getting 1k PIC time. I'm aware many majors hire FO's but getting that CA experience sounds like a necessary requirement just in case it doesn't happen before then.

I know people who went to a regional with a long upgrade time because " majors will hire you without pic" four years later they still haven't upgraded or been hired by a major, and the reality is setting in with them that you are better off with the pic than without it, especially if the economy tanks again.

Now to your actual question about getting a line and your thousand hours here. It took me 20 months to get a thousand hours, I averaged 18 to 19 days off per month every month since I got a line. I worked as little as possible and maximize my time at home. I know several people who got the Thousand hours in 13 to 15 months. Our Reserve time right now is fairly long, and based on the things I've heard about our hiring and growth plans a new hire now should expect to be on reserve for a a not-insignificant amount of time. Probably in the 6th to 8th month range even in a junior base. Of course, all subject to change. Could go up could go down. I was on reserve in 2016 for less than a month. A January 2017 hire was on reserve for almost a year.

That being said, a year two FO here can make 70k without bonuses and average 15 days off per month doing it. 2018 so far I'm averaging 105 hours of credit with 18 days off every month. Pick my holidays, all trips commutable, pick my overnights, pick my Captains.



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