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Propel
Originally Posted by scubadiver
(Post 2660428)
Hopefully this will also inspire more of a "flow" to Delta for current pilots. Seems might unfair to have someone come in and flow before a DGI hopefull, since the Propel program says nothing about PIC time, just 1000 121 time. Kinda foul.
It’s not a flow. It’s disingenuous at best to keep calling it that. AA WO's have flow. If you know anything about this program you should know a flow isn’t what this is. The 1000 121 time requirement as stated on the Propel website simply matches Delta's minimum hiring requirements of 1000 fixed-wing turboprop or turbine time. The students will be given a list of expectations as they gain acceptance into the program. Those expectations will be made known as the student applies and interviews. |
That makes sense. I am sure it is going to be a pretty competitive program.
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
(Post 2660427)
It’s not a CJO. It’s a Qualified JO. Totally different monsters. Propel students will be expected to upgrade. If they don’t they will have to explain why before going to Delta. The hiring process isn’t spread over several years. That’s a gross misconception. They take the full two day interview given a few months apart. Wouldn’t that be more stressful? You can also be assured the students that will be selected to interviewed will also have clean records and backgrounds. Again, nothing different than 9E.
They get their QJO and then their career is put under a microscope for a very long time and will have to stay in touch with a Delta pilot mentor. They will also have to interview at the DCI carrier they ultimately fly for. That job won’t just be handed to them also. I submit their path won’t be any easier than a current 9E pilot. It will simply be different. Also, 1000hrs 121 time is what is required to even upgrade at a regional. So you would have to explain to Delta that you couldn't upgrade because of the regulations? |
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Delta will invite this regional guy to an interview and hire him long before those higher qualified guys even get looked at. Propel is a joke.
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Originally Posted by 100LL
(Post 2660728)
Delta will invite this regional guy to an interview and hire him long before those higher qualified guys even get looked at. Propel is a joke.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2660706)
You sound like one of the mentors, but you have a military background. What makes life stressful at a regional, is not knowing where your career is headed. A highly structured Propel program is a massive relief.
Also, 1000hrs 121 time is what is required to even upgrade at a regional. So you would have to explain to Delta that you couldn't upgrade because of the regulations? I am involved in the program but 100% civilian. I was caught in the regional stagnation that started in the ‘06-‘08 timeframe. Everything about this program should cause me envy and frustration. However, this is about helping those that come after me. I am serving in this program because it is good for Delta and our future. We won’t take them before they hit 1000 121 time. When they do they will still be expected to upgrade. |
Originally Posted by bronc
(Post 2660738)
I dont think this says anything about this guy's experience, training record, or qualifications so not sure what youre getting at
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Originally Posted by flywithjohn
(Post 2660800)
I could be wrong, but I think it a was a poor attempt at stereo typing the current student pilot/ CFI generation that would be eligible for propel via the college track. I think it was tied to popular belief of teens and young adults taking stupid photos on various social media platforms. Just a guess though.
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Originally Posted by bronc
(Post 2660877)
Oh. Thatd be a pretty ignorant rationale
I read recently that the Millennial generation stopped in 1996 and was replaced by Gen Z or iGen as some call it in 1997. It may surprise some here that Gen Z is more independent self-reliant, cautious, practical, and more averse to student debt. Studies have also shown that they drink less, do drugs less and have less sex than millennials. All that said, starting as early as next year, college graduates (based on age 22) will not be in the millennial generation. So this stereotype most likely won’t apply to Propel students. |
Originally Posted by GuardPolice
(Post 2660903)
I read recently that the Millennial generation stopped in 1996 and was replaced by Gen Z or iGen as some call it in 1997. It may surprise some here that Gen Z is more independent self-reliant, cautious, practical, and more averse to student debt. Studies have also shown that they drink less, do drugs less and have less sex than millennials.
All that said, starting as early as next year, college graduates (based on age 22) will not be in the millennial generation. So this stereotype most likely won’t apply to Propel students. |
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