WWWD

GuardPolice

Mildly humorous and TIC aside, is the talk at 9E that Propel is a flow program?

wiggy15

No the talk at 9E is college kids with guaranteed jobs at daddy D will be flying right seat to a DGI guy who had to meet higher requirements for the opportunity just to interview for the same position, despite being higher qualified.

GuardPolice

What higher requirements are those?

wiggy15

18 Months Captain being the main one. Pretty much tacks a 1000 TPIC requirement propel kids don't have plus The interview being done only in seniority order based on that captain requirement whereas propel is based on acceptance to the program, and dgi must do the full 2 day process at once instead of a spoon fed hiring process over several years, and different HR panel interviews. We also have to have a clean training and dicpline record just to get an interview. If they have something happen at their regional, it just delays their move over progress, but they still have their CJO.

GuardPolice

Nothing will be guaranteed until they are sitting in a mainline indoc class. If you think Delta will hand these students a bulletproof plan to get that far without many hoops to jump through then you don’t know Delta.

GuardPolice

It’s not a CJO. It’s a Qualified JO. Totally different monsters. Propel students will be expected to upgrade. If they don’t they will have to explain why before going to Delta. The hiring process isn’t spread over several years. That’s a gross misconception. They take the full two day interview given a few months apart. Wouldn’t that be more stressful? You can also be assured the students that will be selected to interviewed will also have clean records and backgrounds. Again, nothing different than 9E.

They get their QJO and then their career is put under a microscope for a very long time and will have to stay in touch with a Delta pilot mentor. They will also have to interview at the DCI carrier they ultimately fly for. That job won’t just be handed to them also.

I submit their path won’t be any easier than a current 9E pilot. It will simply be different.

scubadiver

Hopefully this will also inspire more of a "flow" to Delta for current pilots. Seems might unfair to have someone come in and flow before a DGI hopefull, since the Propel program says nothing about PIC time, just 1000 121 time. Kinda foul.

wiggy15

True or not, it doesn't change the perception that college kids are getting CJOs with instrument ratings meanwhile plenty of well qualfiied guys are having to meet higher requirements and jump through more difficult hoops to get an interview. And once the propel kids hit the line, I know it'll cause some tension. Delta just kinda threw this out there with no real information and lots of perceptions and misconceptions formed due to lack of information.

I don't really have an opinion on the matter either way honestly, just passing along the 9E sentiment on the flight deck.

scubadiver

That somewhat levels the playing field I suppose.