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scubadiver 11-27-2018 11:56 AM

Narrowing the carriers down?
 
It seems to be no mystery that Delta is going to reduce the number of regional carriers. 9E will obviously be one they will keep, but who do you think they will chop? Interested to hear thoughts and rumors and maybe even some facts...

NotMe 11-27-2018 12:15 PM

I would be amazed if TSH (TSA, GoJet, and Compass) finished out 2019 with no changes. Once they are gone, or at least done with Delta flying, there are three DCI carriers remaining. Who gets those 700’s and 175’s is the big question in my mind. Do the pilots and operating certificates come too? Do they go to the obvious places (700’s to 9E, 175’s to YX) or is DAL still pushing for both airframes at each of the three DCI carriers. How is the flying distributed? Does 9E become an east coast airline, leaving the entire west to OO, or is the plan to have all three cover the entire US?

These are my questions, probably Delta’s too. We will all know for certain by next.... no, we won’t know until we are actually flying the planes on the routes.

KyberCrystal 11-27-2018 12:17 PM

Take a look inside a Gojet CRJ next chance you get. They maintain them like Delta is going to cancel their contract tomorrow and they don't want to spend money for another regionals benefit. They're airworthy but ratty.

NotMe 11-27-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by KyberCrystal (Post 2714950)
Take a look inside a Gojet CRJ next chance you get. They maintain them like Delta is going to cancel their contract tomorrow and they don't want to spend money for another regionals benefit. They're airworthy but ratty.



So maybe Delta replaces them with 900 lites, now that Bombardier is only making one airliner... I’ll bet they can get a screaming deal on those right now!

scubadiver 11-27-2018 12:32 PM

If any/all of those TSH airlines loses the Delta flying, I would think they would go out of business.

scubadiver 11-27-2018 12:36 PM

I would also be surprised if the pilots come too. Wouldn't make sense to be doing all this hiring if they were.

theUpsideDown 11-27-2018 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by scubadiver (Post 2714967)
I would also be surprised if the pilots come too. Wouldn't make sense to be doing all this hiring if they were.

If JF email is correct about our staffing target we could take all the delta owned GoJets planes as fast as they can be put on the certificate and not need another pilot.

NotMe 11-27-2018 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2714972)
If JF email is correct about our staffing target we could take all the delta owned GoJets planes as fast as they can be put on the certificate and not need another pilot.



I would say that is the plan - question is, how fast can those 700’s make it through conformity, and at what cost? We were supposed to get more than 3 700’s from EV...

A gander at the YX forums shows them pretty well staffed too...
I assume that MQ could pretty easily absorb the AA owned 175’s from CP.

UA just bought 25 175’s, presumably to replace the G7 planes.

I haven’t given much thought to the 145’s operated by AX...

I just don’t see TSH lasting too much longer.

KyberCrystal 11-27-2018 01:08 PM

The Gojet scope is very weak. The only coverage they have if United ends its CPA and Delta takes the CRJs back is the pilots get to merge in to the TSA seniority list and keep their longevity.

Republic wanted to buy Compass real bad earlier this year. The two airlines fit together easily. Aircraft conformity and crew training wouldn't be as big of a deal as other mergers we've seen in the past. I see that being a merger.

That leaves TSA. Old and outdated but I'm sure someone would pick up the scraps.

KSCessnaDriver 11-27-2018 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by NotMe (Post 2714984)
I would say that is the plan - question is, how fast can those 700’s make it through conformity, and at what cost? We were supposed to get more than 3 700’s from EV...

A gander at the YX forums shows them pretty well staffed too...
I assume that MQ could pretty easily absorb the AA owned 175’s from CP.

UA just bought 25 175’s, presumably to replace the G7 planes.

I haven’t given much thought to the 145’s operated by AX...

I just don’t see TSH lasting too much longer.

We were never supposed to get more than 3 700's from EV, because only 3 are owned by DL. The remainder are/were owned by OO. The CR7 is reaching the end at DL, probably only long term kept by OO to do ASE flying.

I would expect YX to get the 175's from CPZ, moved to NYC, allowing OO to take their ball and go home. Then the 700's move over to eventually be replaced by CR9SC/Lite, whatever its called.


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