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TransWorld 05-18-2021 01:49 PM

My crystal ball, once retirement hiring really gets going, for all regionals, etc. will be an average in the 7ish years range. Takes 2 oe 3 years to get there.

Bartok 05-18-2021 01:52 PM

Straight flow or the messed up flow Mesaba had with the provision that the Flowee met all the interview credentials?

ie a degree.

JacksonThunder 05-18-2021 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 3236680)
Straight flow or the messed up flow Mesaba had with the provision that the Flowee met all the interview credentials?

ie a degree.

This is a straight up flow.

JulesWinfield 05-18-2021 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 3236680)
Straight flow or the messed up flow Mesaba had with the provision that the Flowee met all the interview credentials?

ie a degree.

Same flow as Compass.

Bartok 05-18-2021 01:55 PM

Thanks guys.

Makes the lining a little more silver then.

JonGoodsell764 05-18-2021 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3236666)
It’s hard to say, probably 5 years to flow if you are a new hire this summer. That’s based on Delta continuously hiring, and pilots still leaving for other airlines sooner.

Fake news. That’s what the recruiters will sell to new hires just like Envoy recruiters do. 20/month divided by your number on the seniority list. Maybe 100 above you will take jobs elsewhere. Based on that(factual) math the current bottom of the list is flowing at 8.3 years worst case scenario. And that’s IF the flow started today. DALPA will tie this up for quite a while. Stop spreading a false narrative.

ninerdriver 05-18-2021 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 3236664)
Well let's calm down. This all hinges on delta and dalpa reaching an agreement on the compass loa. But it's the closest we've ever been. Great step

This.

​​​​​​Also, new hires after it's signed aren't included.

dera 05-18-2021 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by JonGoodsell764 (Post 3236688)
Fake news. That’s what the recruiters will sell to new hires just like Envoy recruiters do. 20/month divided by your number on the seniority list. Maybe 100 above you will take jobs elsewhere. Based on that(factual) math the current bottom of the list is flowing at 8.3 years worst case scenario. And that’s IF the flow started today. DALPA will tie this up for quite a while. Stop spreading a false narrative.

Based on the experience of outside attrition at Envoy, you will have 100 senior pilots leave on your first year alone.

If you guys can get this across the finish line, this is a huge deal for everyone.

JacksonThunder 05-18-2021 02:01 PM

300-400 senior pilots won’t take it anyway. Others won’t wait around.

ninerdriver 05-18-2021 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by JacksonThunder (Post 3236693)
300-400 senior pilots won’t take it anyway. Others won’t wait around.

Only 200 or so senior pilots would be protected, so I bet some of those senior pilots would change their minds.


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