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Old 03-23-2023, 05:14 PM
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I'm considering coming to Endeavor as a direct entry captain. I have an offer letter and a start date ? Realistically how long is the flow to delta ? It's advertised as two years . How many pilots are currently on property that are qualified waiting to flow ? Any other tips or advise would be appreciated..
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I'm considering coming to Endeavor as a direct entry captain. I have an offer letter and a start date ? Realistically how long is the flow to delta ? It's advertised as two years . How many pilots are currently on property that are qualified waiting to flow ? Any other tips or advise would be appreciated..
Its about 7 years at the moment. I've left this place for greener pastures, came in October 2016 and my former classmates still have not received flow notices. But people a few months before my time are starting to get them.
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I'm considering coming to Endeavor as a direct entry captain. I have an offer letter and a start date ? Realistically how long is the flow to delta ? It's advertised as two years . How many pilots are currently on property that are qualified waiting to flow ? Any other tips or advise would be appreciated..
Don’t come here, just go strait to Delta OTS and save yourself thousands in seniority.
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Don’t come here, just go strait to Delta OTS and save yourself thousands in seniority.
Going to Delta OTS is likely a little more difficult than you perceive it to be, even in this environment.
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Going to Delta OTS is likely a little more difficult than you perceive it to be, even in this environment.
It’s pretty much Fog a mirror and work at an AA wholly owned regional to get an interview. WO Captain upgrade is “preferred” but not required.
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Just curious. Two questions:

1. On average, what percentage of Endeavor pilots leave for non-Delta airlines?

2. On average, what percentage of Endeavor pilots choose to stay at Endeavor long term (either they aren’t marketable elsewhere or they like the base/schedule and choose to stay)?

I was recently transiting through LGA and I saw several older Endeavor pilots and thought maybe they like the job and want to stick around….. Not sure turning down the Delta flow makes a lot of economic sense but you never know someone’s personal situation…
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Just curious. Two questions:

1. On average, what percentage of Endeavor pilots leave for non-Delta airlines?

2. On average, what percentage of Endeavor pilots choose to stay at Endeavor long term (either they aren’t marketable elsewhere or they like the base/schedule and choose to stay)?

I was recently transiting through LGA and I saw several older Endeavor pilots and thought maybe they like the job and want to stick around….. Not sure turning down the Delta flow makes a lot of economic sense but you never know someone’s personal situation…
The ones that turned it down now bang on and on about a staple, so make what you will of that.
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Old 06-03-2023, 07:16 PM
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I was recently transiting through LGA and I saw several older Endeavor pilots and thought maybe they like the job and want to stick around….. Not sure turning down the Delta flow makes a lot of economic sense but you never know someone’s personal situation…
Hard to make judgment calls based just on appearance.

plenty of senior 9E CA’s turned down flow because they’d never get a schedule at DL as good as the schedule they have at 9E before they retire. Financially, especially with the radical raises regionals gave their pilots recently, many who were close to retirement made more money by staying at 9E. not all street captains are 25 years old.

that or it could just be that the regionals tend to make us all age rapidly…
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Hard to make judgment calls based just on appearance.

plenty of senior 9E CA’s turned down flow because they’d never get a schedule at DL as good as the schedule they have at 9E before they retire. Financially, especially with the radical raises regionals gave their pilots recently, many who were close to retirement made more money by staying at 9E. not all street captains are 25 years old.

that or it could just be that the regionals tend to make us all age rapidly…
They might have thought that at the time, but the lifers would have 4,000+ below them and likely have a better schedule at DL now. Those who took it are now better than 40% on the ER and picking their trips to Europe.
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