DEC Questions
01-29-2024, 02:30 PM
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DEC Questions
Considering 9E for a DEC position. I have a interview this week. Has anyone done the interview lately and what should I expect? Im 3000TT and 1300 121 time. Looking for PIC time as LCC are not viable option any more.
TIA
- What's the junior bases
- How flexible are the schedules
- How is the Training programs
- Anyone have nay materials that helped you in the training program
- How much credit are DEC doing on average a month
TIA
01-29-2024, 03:36 PM
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- NYC is the junior base for Captains and for DEC you can probably expect to be there a good while. CVG was junior for a while but when trips there became more commutable, and it went senior quick. DTW, ATL, and MSP, you’re looking at least 4-6 years.
- Not a lot of flexibility. The company is maxing out captains productivity in every way they can. There is no straight drops, and regular drops usually end up competing with premium open time trips, so good luck finding someone to take your trip when there is another similar trip being offered with 200% premium pay. But as a DEC, you’re going to a reserve line anyway, and monthly bids will dictate your days and which reserve shift you work.
- Training is excellent. The instructors are great, and management does everything they can to help you be successful. But that does not make the training any less easy for DEC. They want you to learn the Endeavor way and expect you to stick with it. Don't do the "Back in at my old airline, we did it like this", that gets people in trouble. If you stick with the program and do what you need to do, you will succeed.
- The company will provide you with everything. Stick with their program and materials, people have been led astray in the training program using outside materials. To be honest most external materials go way too in depth and cover things no one cares about. The company doesn’t want you to know every nut, rivet, and bolt of the CRJ.
- As a DEC you’re going to be on reserve for a very long while. Almost all the first DEC are still ways away from getting a line, as FO's senior to them are constantly upgrading. On reserve you credit the min guarantee of 75 credits at least every month. On reserve in NY in the summer expect to be used almost every day, between summer, holidays, and weekends, there can be moments you don't get used. Those months you are used every day, you can expect to credit about 85-90 hours. The problem with reserve is they have you work a lot, but it isn’t the most time efficient schedule.
02-01-2024, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by regularpilot
- NYC is the junior base for Captains and for DEC you can probably expect to be there a good while. CVG was junior for a while but when trips there became more commutable, and it went senior quick. DTW, ATL, and MSP, you’re looking at least 4-6 years.
- Not a lot of flexibility. The company is maxing out captains productivity in every way they can. There is no straight drops, and regular drops usually end up competing with premium open time trips, so good luck finding someone to take your trip when there is another similar trip being offered with 200% premium pay. But as a DEC, you’re going to a reserve line anyway, and monthly bids will dictate your days and which reserve shift you work.
- Training is excellent. The instructors are great, and management does everything they can to help you be successful. But that does not make the training any less easy for DEC. They want you to learn the Endeavor way and expect you to stick with it. Don't do the "Back in at my old airline, we did it like this", that gets people in trouble. If you stick with the program and do what you need to do, you will succeed.
- The company will provide you with everything. Stick with their program and materials, people have been led astray in the training program using outside materials. To be honest most external materials go way too in depth and cover things no one cares about. The company doesn’t want you to know every nut, rivet, and bolt of the CRJ.
- As a DEC you’re going to be on reserve for a very long while. Almost all the first DEC are still ways away from getting a line, as FO's senior to them are constantly upgrading. On reserve you credit the min guarantee of 75 credits at least every month. On reserve in NY in the summer expect to be used almost every day, between summer, holidays, and weekends, there can be moments you don't get used. Those months you are used every day, you can expect to credit about 85-90 hours. The problem with reserve is they have you work a lot, but it isn’t the most time efficient schedule.
02-01-2024, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jcool734
Considering 9E for a DEC position. I have a interview this week. Has anyone done the interview lately and what should I expect? Im 3000TT and 1300 121 time. Looking for PIC time as LCC are not viable option any more.
TIA
- What's the junior bases
- How flexible are the schedules
- How is the Training programs
- Anyone have nay materials that helped you in the training program
- How much credit are DEC doing on average a month
TIA
02-01-2024, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
You'd probably get hired at the big 3 with your time . You'll get used and abused on reserve in NY as a DEC
02-03-2024, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
A year ago perhaps, but it's below the average numbers for a legacy now. Regardless I wouldn't bail from an LCC to a regional.
02-03-2024, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
Not at all. I know multiple sub 2000 hour pilots in legacy new hire classes right now.
02-04-2024, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
"Below average numbers". Some indeed fall below, but the average is higher. It's hard to know what will happen with everybody reducing hiring numbers due to aircraft delivery delays.
UA is still doing classes of 60 every Tuesday (minus a few holiday weeks) until the end of the year 2024. There is no "reduction" of hiring. Can't speak on DL but I know AA hasn't slowed down either.
02-04-2024, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
UA is still doing classes of 60 every Tuesday (minus a few holiday weeks) until the end of the year 2024. There is no "reduction" of hiring. Can't speak on DL but I know AA hasn't slowed down either.
Most of the reduction is LCCs cutting hiring significantly. Then you probably have more current LCC folks now looking to make a shift where they previously might not.
02-04-2024, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
Fairly certain United has already backed off of the original 2,500, due to Max delays.
Most of the reduction is LCCs cutting hiring significantly. Then you probably have more current LCC folks now looking to make a shift where they previously might not.
Most of the reduction is LCCs cutting hiring significantly. Then you probably have more current LCC folks now looking to make a shift where they previously might not.
haven't heard anything about slowing down hiring at UA.
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