Pinnacle Changes Name to Endeavor
 

"It appears that the new executive team is trying to build a new culture for the airline after a bruising and chaotic period for Pinnacle employees."

Pinnacle Airlines hits restart button, changes name to Endeavor Air | MinnPost

Thoughts?

Welcome to a 2 week old thread.

Why is there an A330?

Didn't you here about the new orders?

Same old turd...

Endeavoring to fly A330s?

Oops. Didn't catch that.

330s, 331s whatever it takes.

When it hits 380, SELL!

He shut down comair.... He was at delta private jets a month and most of that time he was on vacation.... He's ruthless and will sell off the "new pinnacle" or shut down within two years... He has a bad track record as in the eyes of a pilot. Sad to say this. Oh well.

The problem is that he is merely a puppet to Daddy D. They say jump, he says how high. Time will tell what Delta has in mind for Pinnacle. R.G. is there to facilitate it all.

He's just a hired gun. Takes his orders from Atlanta.

:D

You win the internet.

So is tomorrow the official first day of Endeavor Air?

Pinnacle isn't going anywhere. Delta needs them to help drive down Skywest's costs. Pinnacle is safe.

It's ENDEAVOR get it right!

There ya go. Fmp. Better now? :p:D

I don't disagree. However, I noticed on another thread that BB of Republic said they lost the United flying to SkyWest because RAH pilots made too much. Atkin is scary smart or maybe scary sneaky. I'd imagine their new E-jets will go very senior therefore the pilots will be topped out on pay. How does he (Atkin) do it?

Are you familiar with XJT's rate reset on 2015? I'm not. I've only heard snippets, but can imagine Atkin might be relying on this to cut costs and shove a contract down the XJT pilots' throats? The next few years should be exciting.

I thought I read somewhere that the reset was waived with their latest trade for 900s... Also BB recently said Pinnacle and AE will most likely be sold which I think will happen or be parted out slowly ala Comair.

You can find the Skywest/XJT rate reset requirement in the most recent 10K. It requires Skywest & XE to be the second lowest cost DCI operator. It's not just XJT, but the Skywest side too.

It was pushed back to 2015 I believe. I'll find it.

Didnt know that, thanks.

Some RAH guys have posted the BB part in various threads lately... Apparently he said that in a memo.

Pinnacle had the same rate-reset. However it was supposed to be a reset to offset the increase of Pinnacle's ALPA Contract 2010.

Look how that happened. Delta went in and drove PNCL to BK and got exactly what they wanted.

People will vote anything to hang onto that coveted left seat. FOs at least can say eff this, I'm outta here. The stockholm syndrome FOs voted yes though.

Pinnacle drove itself into bankruptcy through mismanagement. Stop blaming Delta. Why should Delta pay to retrain BOS-based Colgan pilots flying US Airways Express aircraft to go fly a Q400 aircraft for United Express? Delta has no interest in paying to keep their competition going.

Yeah seriously guys! Its not like delta could withhold millions of dollars, or intentionally give pinnacle something they couldn't handle.

Doesn't Delta do this on a daily basis for SkyWest, Republic and GoJet? A pay reset is different than indirectly supporting the competitor. The money Delta pays SkyWest is going to buy those new airplanes that SW will be flying for United. Not sure if it's as cut and dry as you say it is.

Yes it was. 9E was so understaffed, Menke cancelled the BOS flying for US Airways Express to better staff the rest of the operation with those pilots. Delta shouldn't pay for incompetence and reshuffling their competition. They agrees to lay training costs, but for pilots going TO the Delta Connection banner. Not to their competitor. Sorry, but it was 9Es managament and the SLI award with it's conditions that screwed 9E into BK.

I would just like to say welcome back from your trip shy. Was it vacation or just a busy trip? :D

Good Luck with Gumm!
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Similar to how S.M. was brought in for the BK process? It's like going to the bullpen to bring in the situational pitcher.

You're clueless Shy.

The Pinnacle-Mesaba-Colgan debacle was well orchestrated by one of the best in the business: Richard Anderson.

This was a play to create a subset of Delta to lower costs and create a buffer of pilots.

We were put through a brutal bankruptcy and a direct threat from Anderson that we will sign or go out of business.

Well it worked. Anderson is ruthlessly efficient at what he does. If Delta pilots have trouble keeping up with his maneuvering, do you think we really had a chance?

Look over there Shy, a Colgan guy. Go kick him!

And on the subject of Gumm, he's no different than anyone else they put in there.

Big Richard is driving this boat.

Better than the other options, but still awkward as a "logo". You can't really use it by itself like the DL widget, UA globe, AA eagle (flight symbol now, I guess), or even the previous 9E mountain CFIT. It also requires the wordmark to use an awful lot of vertical space. Then again, nobody really sees regional branding except on stationary or internal websites, so I guess it doesn't really matter.

lol wow. See a psychologist.

If you polish a turd, its still a turd.

Good luck with Captain Spooldown aka. Gumm.

You are the one that is clueless. When Pinnacle purchased Colgan, Anderson was still NWA and there was no NWA-Delta hookup. 9E was then screwed when Phil T grew Colgan with Qs (non-union of course) while 9E pilots took downgrades and displacements. Phil T underbid the Q contracts. Next, to get his foot in the door with Delta, Phil T underbid 16 CRJ-900s with Delta in ATL. Anderson did NOTHING here. Then, several years later, 9E corp bought Mesaba with a 'sweetened' deal by Delta. Another dumb move, XJ was already shrinking and parking their entire Saab fleet. 3 dozen planes to be removed and they still bought them. A smarter management wouldn't have. SkyWest, for example: they did not touch Pinnacle or Mesaba. So now 9E had a bunch of Saabs being parked and a bunch of pilots who needed left seats and right seats in RJs. Huge problem, because they are XJ and 9E was still 9E. How's that operational certificate thing coming? Oh yeah that was totally screwed up, and I suppose that's Anderson's fault too? I remember when the SLI came out and it was *literally* every man bid and get whatever you want. ***. They didn't even have an operational merger (fenced vs unfenced) and yet guys are already bidding off the Saabs and Qs into CRJ900s. Another dumb mistake, allowed by the JCBA, and the union went with it. 9E went into BK because of many other screw-ups, all those mentioned above. Delta not paying a contractual fee (because again, 9E was misappropriating training meant for DCI pilots) was only one small reason in the overall picture.

You had a choice, you could have voted no. Gumm isn't there to ensure 9E's long term survival. He has a precedence of going to places to shut them down.

That explains why I'm a 900 Captain now. My goodness, you are clueless, please make something else up, Shy, you are the biggest joke on here. Do you have a life outside of posting on here? What exactly drives someone to leave a company then spend their life stalking forums for them?

2 things.

1. You have no idea if Skywest tried to buy Mesaba or not.
2. Kissing Delta's butt on here isn't going to help your cause. You're still Shyguy. ;)