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10-06-2013, 06:28 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
How do you figure?
The 15% were willing to loose that income and the company get shutdown.
I respect both views. But to casting blame on the 85% for keeping the 15% employed, still getting paid, paying mortgage, car note, kids college, groceries, insurance. Insurance is a huge one!!
If you have no leverage then no one can hear you stomping your feet except your dog.
It is what it is in the big picture.
Here is a question. Would you go to the casino and bet every check you make ? Of course not, to high risk of loosing it all.
That's where the 85% stood.
Again not slamming the 15% but the 85% is not the problem. Pilot demand and leverage is. I feel that will be turning towards the Pilots advantage soon.
In the end take care of your family and your home.
In case you get a shot at the majors or you decide to seek a refund from your accredited university, it's lose and losing. Loose is a different word that you are not intending to use. Loosing is not even a word. Best of luck. Luv
10-06-2013, 07:08 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by legend
The 85% voted this way to keep the pay check coming, not at the unemployment line etc.
The 15% were willing to loose that income and the company get shutdown.
I respect both views. But to casting blame on the 85% for keeping the 15% employed, still getting paid, paying mortgage, car note, kids college, groceries, insurance. Insurance is a huge one!!
If you have no leverage then no one can hear you stomping your feet except your dog.
It is what it is in the big picture.
Here is a question. Would you go to the casino and bet every check you make ? Of course not, to high risk of loosing it all.
That's where the 85% stood.
Again not slamming the 15% but the 85% is not the problem. Pilot demand and leverage is. I feel that will be turning towards the Pilots advantage soon.
In the end take care of your family and your home.
The 15% were willing to loose that income and the company get shutdown.
I respect both views. But to casting blame on the 85% for keeping the 15% employed, still getting paid, paying mortgage, car note, kids college, groceries, insurance. Insurance is a huge one!!
If you have no leverage then no one can hear you stomping your feet except your dog.
It is what it is in the big picture.
Here is a question. Would you go to the casino and bet every check you make ? Of course not, to high risk of loosing it all.
That's where the 85% stood.
Again not slamming the 15% but the 85% is not the problem. Pilot demand and leverage is. I feel that will be turning towards the Pilots advantage soon.
In the end take care of your family and your home.
How is this going to be our advantage? It's a signed contract for 7 yrs...
Did Mgt have "all" the flying covered in 12 mos? I don't know nor do I care anymore, that is in the past and cannot be changed.
What is wrong is that the Union is still trying to coddle Mgt because of the worthless SSP..
I don't like it when our fearless leader Whinechor stands up in the schoolhouse and repeats the same story over and over ending up with "we should wear our hats and do so proudly"
I would like to hear, Yes we have a really poor contract but this our strategy and goals to improve our future.....
Your last question to me has to do with the Q400's, I tend to believe United had a little insight when it came back and offers a what do you need to continue operations contract.
They still have aircraft parked because other airlines are unable to staff the program.
You can currently look at Eagle, Republic air group, Skywest and other regionals to see if they are having troubles with filling their classes..
The answer is yes they are having troubles finding qualified pilots.. Ie pilots without criminal or disciplinary issues.
10-06-2013, 07:42 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Captain
Posts: 464
Originally Posted by full of luv
Legend,
In case you get a shot at the majors or you decide to seek a refund from your accredited university, it's lose and losing. Loose is a different word that you are not intending to use. Loosing is not even a word. Best of luck. Luv
In case you get a shot at the majors or you decide to seek a refund from your accredited university, it's lose and losing. Loose is a different word that you are not intending to use. Loosing is not even a word. Best of luck. Luv
10-06-2013, 07:58 AM
#25
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,071
Originally Posted by Fr8tdog
The union was selling this turd as a 6 mos savior.... You have your blood money what are you still doing here?
How is this going to be our advantage? It's a signed contract for 7 yrs...
Did Mgt have "all" the flying covered in 12 mos? I don't know nor do I care anymore, that is in the past and cannot be changed.
What is wrong is that the Union is still trying to coddle Mgt because of the worthless SSP..
I don't like it when our fearless leader Whinechor stands up in the schoolhouse and repeats the same story over and over ending up with "we should wear our hats and do so proudly"
I would like to hear, Yes we have a really poor contract but this our strategy and goals to improve our future.....
Your last question to me has to do with the Q400's, I tend to believe United had a little insight when it came back and offers a what do you need to continue operations contract.
They still have aircraft parked because other airlines are unable to staff the program.
You can currently look at Eagle, Republic air group, Skywest and other regionals to see if they are having troubles with filling their classes..
The answer is yes they are having troubles finding qualified pilots.. Ie pilots without criminal or disciplinary issues.
How is this going to be our advantage? It's a signed contract for 7 yrs...
Did Mgt have "all" the flying covered in 12 mos? I don't know nor do I care anymore, that is in the past and cannot be changed.
What is wrong is that the Union is still trying to coddle Mgt because of the worthless SSP..
I don't like it when our fearless leader Whinechor stands up in the schoolhouse and repeats the same story over and over ending up with "we should wear our hats and do so proudly"
I would like to hear, Yes we have a really poor contract but this our strategy and goals to improve our future.....
Your last question to me has to do with the Q400's, I tend to believe United had a little insight when it came back and offers a what do you need to continue operations contract.
They still have aircraft parked because other airlines are unable to staff the program.
You can currently look at Eagle, Republic air group, Skywest and other regionals to see if they are having troubles with filling their classes..
The answer is yes they are having troubles finding qualified pilots.. Ie pilots without criminal or disciplinary issues.
10-06-2013, 03:56 PM
#27
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,071
Originally Posted by Fr8tdog
From people who work there that I know..They are telling me seats are open in class.
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