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tom14cat14 02-24-2014 10:36 AM

I just had an LCA in the JS last week. He stated BW said at the instructor meeting they just had to tell Delta that we will not be able to staff the flying Delta wants us to do.

Tinpusher007 02-24-2014 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1588690)
I just had an LCA in the JS last week. He stated BW said at the instructor meeting they just had to tell Delta that we will not be able to staff the flying Delta wants us to do.

This is just getting way beyond stupid at this point.

tom14cat14 02-24-2014 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 1588732)
This is just getting way beyond stupid at this point.

This place? Or me posting what the check air man said?

Tinpusher007 02-24-2014 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1588733)
This place? Or me posting what the check air man said?

This place. They keep coming into RGS asking us how can we attract more pilots. They want co domicile and need more pilots but act like they have no idea how to make both happen. There have been multiple nationwide news outlets that have profiled this industry and it's shortcomings. This isnt a mystery to anyone and they keep acting as though it is. Does anyone really believe they arent forward thinking enough to both attract and retain pilots???

BW to DL: "Uhhh we cant staff the flying you want us to do and we have no idea why. So what do we do now, George?"

Like I said, just stupid!!!

tom14cat14 02-24-2014 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 1588739)
This place. They keep coming into RGS asking us how can we attract more pilots. They want co domicile and need more pilots but act like they have no idea how to make both happen. There have been multiple nationwide news outlets that have profiled this industry and it's shortcomings. This isnt a mystery to anyone and they keep acting as though it is. Does anyone really believe they arent forward thinking enough to both attract and retain pilots??? Like I said, just stupid!!!

Agreed. This is really looking like we will be 81 planes.

CarolinaAngler 02-24-2014 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 1588739)
This place. They keep coming into RGS asking us how can we attract more pilots. They want co domicile and need more pilots but act like they have no idea how to make both happen. There have been multiple nationwide news outlets that have profiled this industry and it's shortcomings. This isnt a mystery to anyone and they keep acting as though it is. Does anyone really believe they arent forward thinking enough to both attract and retain pilots??? Like I said, just stupid!!!

I've spoken with numerous guys and gals who take part in the hiring and interviewing process. From what I've gathered from our short conversations is that its (at this point) not a shortage of applicants. Its a problem with their definition of a suitable selection. They'll interview say 30 pilots, offer jobs to 10 of them and then only have 4-5 accept and even then only a few show. So the question now is why are they being so picky? Why do the new hire candidates need to meet Delta standards knowing darn well they're going to pay them below industry rates? I find it hard to believe they don't know why they can't hire. All the guys they want are going to other carriers. It is no secret that Delta has told us that we'll fly as much as we can staff, but what are they holding onto? I have to believe there is something they aren't telling us yet. Just my opinion. At this rate we won't be able to staff the 900's come this time next year.

Past V1 02-24-2014 11:49 AM

Endeavor (9E) interviews and offers?
 
We keep forgetting that managements sole purpose for regional flying is to make it non-attractive so pilots leave. Keeps overhead low.

I don't think it's a coincidence that they choose 81 planes. They knew and still know a flood of pilots wouldn't be knocking at our door. They will hire a little bit, but not like they said.

There will still be upgrades though. The next 3 years middle seniority people will be moving on. And the rest will fill the gaps.

But just remember, they want it to be non-attractive for pilots. Can't make it too good, or they will stay.

MrMustache 02-24-2014 12:59 PM

Anyone surprised? This has Comair all over it.

atpcliff 02-24-2014 01:05 PM

Nothing like Comair...because back then DAL could easily move the Comair pax to another carrier....note they can't because of the pilot shortage.

MrMustache 02-24-2014 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 1588816)
Nothing like Comair...because back then DAL could easily move the Comair pax to another carrier....note they can't because of the pilot shortage.

They're gonna need to give flying elsewhere anyways if they can't staff their flying. Bet you $1 that they'd rather wind them down on their own terms vs BW telling them they can't staff the flying they've been given.


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