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Old 04-09-2015 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I don't think you have any room to talk about how the SSP is a short cut, considering Pinnacle had a publish minimums of 1,000TT+ and 200+ Multi at the time you got hired. How many hours did you have? 400? 500? Pinnacle took guys from ATP or Jet U with much less than the published minimums. So based on what you just said. If you think the SSP is a short cut, because of getting hired at Delta without the published minimums, doesn't that mean that you took a short cut too? By going to Jet U and not meeting the published minimum of 1000+TT and 200 Multi? You choose Jet U and took the short cut instead of going out and teaching and fly freight to build time. You went there probably because you wanted to get to the right seat of an RJ ASAP, which is fine, but don't say the SSP is a short cut and later say, you didn't take one yourself.
I never said that. It's the other way around, the SSP guy calling me for a short cut. And PCLCrew added that if you're gonna call out a jetU shortcut, then recognize that SSP was one as well.

As for 9E's bridge program anyone could have done what I did and do a bridge program. In fact it was advertised right on the flypinnacle.com website as you see here:

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Old 04-09-2015 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiten
Disseminate? definition: to spread or disperse (something, especially information) widely. I can see why you don't value your degree.
He probably meant discriminate.
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Old 04-09-2015 | 09:08 AM
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Unbelievable banter. Delta pilots bickering with us regional folk. By the way, why does anyone give a darn about how one gets the job? It's no one else's bloody business.
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Old 04-09-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
He probably meant discriminate.
Any word, but that one, when you talk about hiring, but yeah.

Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Unbelievable banter. Delta pilots bickering with us regional folk. By the way, why does anyone give a darn about how one gets the job? It's no one else's bloody business.
+1 You are what you can negotiate.
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Old 04-09-2015 | 01:44 PM
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Clarification was provided for the SSP and the hiring commitment. The union and the legal team and Delta all agree that the hiring commitment in the agreed upon numbers will continue for all CJO holders even after the last SSP eligible pilot has interviewed. It sounds like the possibility of increasing those numbers might even be on the table. So while the bridge agreement might be poorly worded the intent of the agreement will be honored.
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Old 04-09-2015 | 02:14 PM
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It is my understanding that there is a long-term plan that Delta has for Endeavor. The needs of the company in the next few years for pilots will be extremely high as the hiring now is for expansion and hasn't really been for attrition due to retirements.

Endeavor, is a way to "train" pilots to fill their needs, so when brought to mainline, it is simply a new type that the candidate is training for as the "Delta" way would already be a part of their DNA.

They are full steam ahead with changing the current SOP's to match theirs, as the changes are evident with the 900’s and still being modified.

What all the naysayers need to understand is Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan are dead. Delta wanted to start a regional up and did it by buying an AOC and some assets. So let the ghosts of airline’s past rest in peace, Endeavor is a new beast that will rule the roost, so get in on the ground floor because it will be a Meteoric rise!
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Old 04-09-2015 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Clarification was provided for the SSP and the hiring commitment. The union and the legal team and Delta all agree that the hiring commitment in the agreed upon numbers will continue for all CJO holders even after the last SSP eligible pilot has interviewed. It sounds like the possibility of increasing those numbers might even be on the table. So while the bridge agreement might be poorly worded the intent of the agreement will be honored.
I'm assuming they will just extend the SSP indefinitely.
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Old 04-09-2015 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by stepping razor
It is my understanding that there is a long-term plan that Delta has for Endeavor. The needs of the company in the next few years for pilots will be extremely high as the hiring now is for expansion and hasn't really been for attrition due to retirements.

Endeavor, is a way to "train" pilots to fill their needs, so when brought to mainline, it is simply a new type that the candidate is training for as the "Delta" way would already be a part of their DNA.

They are full steam ahead with changing the current SOP's to match theirs, as the changes are evident with the 900’s and still being modified.

What all the naysayers need to understand is Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan are dead. Delta wanted to start a regional up and did it by buying an AOC and some assets. So let the ghosts of airline’s past rest in peace, Endeavor is a new beast that will rule the roost, so get in on the ground floor because it will be a Meteoric rise!
Prepare to get pummeled by the naysayers.
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Old 04-09-2015 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Clarification was provided for the SSP and the hiring commitment. The union and the legal team and Delta all agree that the hiring commitment in the agreed upon numbers will continue for all CJO holders even after the last SSP eligible pilot has interviewed. It sounds like the possibility of increasing those numbers might even be on the table. So while the bridge agreement might be poorly worded the intent of the agreement will be honored.
So why did Delta refuse to put that in writing, TWICE? (the original SSP, and the modified FO agreement)
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Old 04-10-2015 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stepping razor
It is my understanding that there is a long-term plan that Delta has for Endeavor. The needs of the company in the next few years for pilots will be extremely high as the hiring now is for expansion and hasn't really been for attrition due to retirements.

Endeavor, is a way to "train" pilots to fill their needs, so when brought to mainline, it is simply a new type that the candidate is training for as the "Delta" way would already be a part of their DNA.

They are full steam ahead with changing the current SOP's to match theirs, as the changes are evident with the 900’s and still being modified.

What all the naysayers need to understand is Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan are dead. Delta wanted to start a regional up and did it by buying an AOC and some assets. So let the ghosts of airline’s past rest in peace, Endeavor is a new beast that will rule the roost, so get in on the ground floor because it will be a Meteoric rise!


You're really reaching hard to justify the existence of 9E. It's what we call a stinky turd covered in some bonus cash. It's still a turd deep inside.
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