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VoiceOfReason 12-12-2015 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by begood2all (Post 2026496)
I applying to both but honestly don't know much as far as what's behind the curtain. It's hard to know about an airline from the outside. HR and pilot recruitment paint one picture, but every canvas has two sides... Any insight would be sincerely appreciated.

* I was originally only referring to Endeavor but now you've me thinking about Compass' flow; Does someone know how that is working out. It it for real or just some deceptive marketing?

The Compass flow is done, or a few stragglers are moving on in the next few months. They don't have a hiring agreement with Delta any longer.

I'm hearing strong winds about fleet expansion and increased pay from 9E. My recruiter pal said the union had been meeting with execs all week on a deal to increase pay and flying. Stay tuned!

begood2all 12-12-2015 12:40 PM

You're right. I don't. I am new to applying to airlines. And because I don't know much about it, that's why I'm asking. I hope my asking doesn't sound like I'm taking something for granted. I am grateful. Earnestly grateful for these opportunities.

begood2all 12-12-2015 12:42 PM

What is E9? And what does SSP mean? I keep seeing SSP.

VoiceOfReason 12-12-2015 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Kforekyle (Post 2026505)
Sounds like you have no idea what really goes on with these interviews. Alot of qualified, experienced and well prepared pilots go to the interview and get rejected.

True, likely on both fronts. Just sounds like there's also been a lot of folks who cancel their interviews without a second thought for the guy/gal behind them. I've heard the Delta interview isn't a cake walk and even the best prepared folks struggle.

prex8390 12-12-2015 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Five93H (Post 2026423)
Not a flow, a guaranteed interview providing certain conditions are met (24 months as a captain for Endeavor as one)

Full information here: http://www.endeavorair.com/documents...rogram_FAQ.PDF

What is upgrade time at Endeavor? 8 years I thought I saw at the other thread, not a poking fun question, it's an honest one out of curiosity.

CFin 12-12-2015 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2026545)
What is upgrade time at Endeavor?

Depends on who you listen to. If we hire 60 a month next year and can expand the fleet the way they want, I've heard as low as 18-24 months. Realistically, probably around 3ish years though.

Five93H 12-12-2015 01:34 PM

The most junior upgrade on the recent vacancy was late 2007 I believe. Once we get through 2007 and early 2008 hires, it should come down, not as many guys in the 2008-2011 period, and none from 2011-2014.

BobJenkins 12-12-2015 02:03 PM

9E is Endeavor - You can look up codes here: http://www.iata.org/publications/Pages/code-search.aspx

SSP stands for Starspeed. ;)

Just kidding. In this instance, it means Streamline Selection Process


Originally Posted by begood2all (Post 2026513)
What is E9? And what does SSP mean? I keep seeing SSP.


Imapilot2 12-12-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by jethikoki (Post 2026466)
The only flow was the Mesaba pilots to NWA. After the merger between DAL and NWA, DAL did not want to honor the agreement (except for a handful) nor did ALPA try to enforce the agreement like they do or would with mainline pilots. Thanks ALPA! Although DAL still likes to advertise about having integrity I guess they must define it differently.

Where the He!! did you get that bs? Completely fabricated and not how it went down. I talked with one of the reps that got kicked out and one that went back in to the talks.

I hope you know that Compass retained all 400 or so that where to flow. Mesaba did not. "nor did ALPA try to enforce the agreement like they would with mainline pilots". Complete lie. Actually the word "force" being a key word in its failure.
You can figure out the rest. Or go ask a rep that was there.

begood2all 12-12-2015 02:20 PM

You're right I don't and that's why I am asking. I want understand the industry the best I can. I can't do it alone. I hope I didn't sound ungrateful for these opportunities to apply. I don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.


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