A&P Part 65
04-27-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
The days of one mechanic simply signing a note saying that he saw the work performed are rapidly coming to a close. The FAA prefers more documentation now.
04-28-2013, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishFlyer757
Hello -
I am very interested in getting my A&P through the Part 65 experience route for both A&P. I see on the FAA website that 30 months of experience is required. Any idea how much a 'month' equates to? If I do one hour a month for 30 months would that qualify? (Obviously I am using that merely as an example). Would it need to be 30 months x 40 hours/week x 4 weeks/month? Does part-time work count? Must it be paid? Thanks for any insights someone may have.
I am very interested in getting my A&P through the Part 65 experience route for both A&P. I see on the FAA website that 30 months of experience is required. Any idea how much a 'month' equates to? If I do one hour a month for 30 months would that qualify? (Obviously I am using that merely as an example). Would it need to be 30 months x 40 hours/week x 4 weeks/month? Does part-time work count? Must it be paid? Thanks for any insights someone may have.
§ 65.77 Experience requirements.
Each applicant for a mechanic certificate or rating must present either an appropriate graduation certificate or certificate of completion from a certificated aviation maintenance technician school or documentary evidence, satisfactory to the Administrator, of—
(a) At least 18 months of practical experience with the procedures, practices, materials, tools, machine tools, and equipment generally used in constructing, maintaining, or altering airframes, or powerplants appropriate to the rating sought; or
(b) At least 30 months of practical experience concurrently performing the duties appropriate to both the airframe and powerplant ratings.
[Doc. No. 1179, 27 FR, 7973, Aug. 10, 1962, as amended by Amdt. 65-14, 35 FR, 5533, Apr. 3, 1970]
The rule of thumb I used to hear was 1900 hrs when it came to part 147 classroom hrs. But using experience to get your sign off I am going to say that 1 hr a month for 30 months isn't going to cut it..(I know that was just an example.) Again I guess it depends on which FSDO you go to with your experience documents whether they will except it or not.
04-29-2013, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Stratosphere
The FAR's are pretty generic in that statement too this is what it says
§ 65.77 Experience requirements.
Each applicant for a mechanic certificate or rating must present either an appropriate graduation certificate or certificate of completion from a certificated aviation maintenance technician school or documentary evidence, satisfactory to the Administrator, of—
(a) At least 18 months of practical experience with the procedures, practices, materials, tools, machine tools, and equipment generally used in constructing, maintaining, or altering airframes, or powerplants appropriate to the rating sought; or
(b) At least 30 months of practical experience concurrently performing the duties appropriate to both the airframe and powerplant ratings.
[Doc. No. 1179, 27 FR, 7973, Aug. 10, 1962, as amended by Amdt. 65-14, 35 FR, 5533, Apr. 3, 1970]
The rule of thumb I used to hear was 1900 hrs when it came to part 147 classroom hrs. But using experience to get your sign off I am going to say that 1 hr a month for 30 months isn't going to cut it..(I know that was just an example.) Again I guess it depends on which FSDO you go to with your experience documents whether they will except it or not.
§ 65.77 Experience requirements.
Each applicant for a mechanic certificate or rating must present either an appropriate graduation certificate or certificate of completion from a certificated aviation maintenance technician school or documentary evidence, satisfactory to the Administrator, of—
(a) At least 18 months of practical experience with the procedures, practices, materials, tools, machine tools, and equipment generally used in constructing, maintaining, or altering airframes, or powerplants appropriate to the rating sought; or
(b) At least 30 months of practical experience concurrently performing the duties appropriate to both the airframe and powerplant ratings.
[Doc. No. 1179, 27 FR, 7973, Aug. 10, 1962, as amended by Amdt. 65-14, 35 FR, 5533, Apr. 3, 1970]
The rule of thumb I used to hear was 1900 hrs when it came to part 147 classroom hrs. But using experience to get your sign off I am going to say that 1 hr a month for 30 months isn't going to cut it..(I know that was just an example.) Again I guess it depends on which FSDO you go to with your experience documents whether they will except it or not.
As a person who scrutinizes business contracts all the time the only words in which are relevant in this piece are the portion stating Satisfactory To The Administrator. Subject to interpretation!
04-30-2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
As a person who scrutinizes business contracts all the time the only words in which are relevant in this piece are the portion stating Satisfactory To The Administrator. Subject to interpretation
01-17-2014, 04:25 PM
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i recently did the part 65 thing to obtain my A&P. long story short, the words, "satisfactory to the administrator" are indeed the only thing that mattered. i got my experience on the side, not via a full time job. i had nearly every hour work documented on a home-made worksheet and in dust covers in a neat little binder and a letter from my overseeing A&P/IA. he FED looked at my binder for five minutes and closed it. we chatted it up for 5 mins and he signed my stuff. professional presentation of work history helps. ambiguity is your friend in this case
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