Hello,
does anyone know how tough the training is at Envoy? Might try for it.

 

Omg you're not applying to be an astronaut. Are you a professional pilot? Can you make the plane go up and down in a sim? Can you remember stuff? You should be good. I'm not sure what goes on there but traditionally older folks don't do well in regional training because they don't do well the first part of this paragraph.

 

Honestly, if you don't have 100% confidence in yourself and have to come on here to ask if it's too tough then Envoy may not be a good fit for you. It's not rocket science, but by no means is it easy. It's A LOT of info thrown at you very quickly and over a short period of time. I wouldn't say it's any more difficult than most other airline programs but it takes time, dedication, and lots of studying. If you struggle anytime during training whether it be in ground or sim, they will get you some extra help and work with you. If you were to get on the 145, which is more than likely what you'd get, the new AQP initial program moves pretty quickly and they will expect to to be able to regurgitate some knowledge and procedures early on.

Bottom line, it's tough but doable and they will bend over backwards to help you out. But if you're not totally confident in yourself or your abilities, or if you're a slow learner then it could eat your lunch.

 

Can't imagine it being any worse than Army flight school at Rucker. Will find out eventually

 

It's not even close. In fact it's so not close I can't explain how not close it is haha

 

Having recently completed the process I can say that there were a few people who struggled with the SV/PV and MV, but you aren't going to get signed off to take the QLOE if you're not ready. The instructors are amazing, there was only one that I didn't like. I have never flown anything but a 6 pack, so going to glass has been a hell of a transition, but if you ask questions and show that you are there to learn, then you'll sail through. Training is a tough and humbling experience at times, but if it was easy then everyone would want to be one of us.

 

My sim partner was a army pilot and he failed his oral. So don't think if you passed army training at ruckers this course will be easy.

 

To be honest, I think if anyone has trouble it's limited to a very small amount of problems.

1. Not familiar/no experience in glass cockpit. To some it can be like learning a new language, or interpreting an Egyptian symbol.

2. Bad study habits/taking notes

3. Bad attitude/low morale. I.e. No studying, always at the bar. Doesn't care of the outcome. Sometimes HR lets these slip through.

4. Lack of two-crew operations. It does actually help to get used to how flying with another pilot works. I've heard some guys just can't transition very well from single pilot.

5. Different class environment/Online study
I actually believe this one to be true for many. Most seasoned folks are used to the traditional classroom experience and run into hurdles with online internet studies without a person to explain something in a classroom. I do sympathize with this group. Because that's how I have always done initial training and can understand the problems it can inherit.


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Even if you fail MESA will take you.

 

Probably didn't give the program the respect it deserved. Mil pilots who flunk regional training are almost invariably guilty of arrogance.