I know exactly what you were responding to, I read it before I first posted. There are about 850 in the PP's, not including the 350ish lifers. You claimed that 850 estimate included all of the lifers. You were wrong, as it included approximately none of them.

My source is various versions of the seniority list and some simple math. Even your link backed me up if you owned any reading comprehension skills. They said that the 850ish included lifers who already "elected" to go, as in the 13 or so on the PP list who said yes. With or without those 13 or so, it is still 850ish, and your response was still wrong.

Keep flinging insults, though.

 

I agree. My information was based on the data you stated. Suppose another 50 lifers were to change their mind and flow. That would extend the PP flow by 2 months. With any additional lifers choosing to flow and some number of PP that go around flow, go to another airline, or elect not to flow, I would bet the last of the PPs would flow 2 - 3 years after the first PP flows. My crystal ball is fuzzy for any more accuracy.

 

The only issue I had with your numbers was that it may be 25/mo for 11 months of the year, since in the past AA didn't start any classes in Decembers. It is possible they could change that policy however.

 

Many of us are beginning to question the sustainability of the flow through beyond the 824. The last two selections from to 824 list were 3 and 11 pilots, respectively. We understand that monthly selections are meaningless, so long as actual flow continues and the targeted number of pilots actually walk through the doors at AA and get a new ID badge; however, the last group of 824 pilots is scheduled to start class the first week in June and (thus far) there has been no selections made from the Protected Pilot list to keep the pipeline filled. Historically, pilots are flowing approximately 60 days after selection. Unless a selection is made soon, it could be assumed that only 11 will flow in June, and then there would be a break in the flow for an undetermined period of time.

There are many of us that have turned down job interviews and actual job offers with Legacy carriers in anticipation of a continuous flow of pilots to AA based on contractual numbers. Many have speculated that once the 824 list was exhausted, the flow would stop. It seems the company would want to actually make its first selection from the Protected Pilot list sooner, rather than later, both to celebrate the continued success of the program and to reassure current pilots and prospective newhires of its viability in the IMMEDIATE future. I for one am entertaining another job offer. Though I would prefer to stick it out and bring my experience to AA, passing on an actual job offer versus holding on for a few more months for a potential flow through spot is starting to seem like a bad idea. Come on Envoy...show us, don't tell us, that the flow will continue beyond the 824!

 

Maybe send this to somebody useful instead of posting it on an internet forum. Somebody like Ric or Pedro. They could at least respond with their intentions.

 

They can't mess with the flow. Its contractual!

 

Pay raise announced


Anyone heard this? This should give our lifers a better chance to flow. More money!

 

Shhh...do you want lifers to flow?

 

Is the pope catholic? We need these lifers gone so we can get more upgrades.

 

LOL, excellent work there sir.