Envoy 824 flowthrough done PP metering begun!
04-08-2017 | 05:58 AM
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There are also about 350 senior captains who already bypassed flow before the 824. They will get a second chance when the protected pilots begins, and many of them will reverse their decision and go. This is especially true of ORD captains, since ORD has been decimated.
04-08-2017 | 07:43 AM
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You pro-flow proponents do recognize that in the very near future, AA will most likely not drastically increase the quantity of flow-throughs? They will be hiring non-stop from non wholly owned regionals in order not to deplete their wholly owneds of pilots. That is just my humble opinion what I think will happen. Last post in this thread haha, have fun.
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04-08-2017 | 07:46 AM
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Yes. Once the 824 is finished (which should happen in may or june), we go to 35% of classes. When the 40th 175 is on property (~august), then it goes back up to 50% but metered to 25/mo. During that they will essentially ask every pilot on the property every month whether or not they want to flow, and the most senior 35% or 25/mo who say yes will go.
There are also about 350 senior captains who already bypassed flow before the 824. They will get a second chance when the protected pilots begins, and many of them will reverse their decision and go. This is especially true of ORD captains, since ORD has been decimated.
There are also about 350 senior captains who already bypassed flow before the 824. They will get a second chance when the protected pilots begins, and many of them will reverse their decision and go. This is especially true of ORD captains, since ORD has been decimated.
04-08-2017 | 08:10 AM
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For once, you actually posted information that is accurate and free of opinion...mostly. Until your last paragraph. Truth is we don't know how many geezers will want the 3rd bite at the flow Apple. Most of them are content where they are...that is purely anecdotal of course...we can assume that some will choose to flow, no doubt. Either way it should only alter the PP flow by a few months in either direction. There aren't enough senior CAs who could possibly flow after the 824 to cause a huge tremor.
It is ironic when you accuse others of having some agenda.
04-08-2017 | 08:18 AM
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Once again you accuse me of not being factual, you put words in my mouth, and unsurprisingly you are wrong. I agree it will delay the flow by at most a few months, but I neither said nor implied that it would be a "huge tremor," nor did I contradict that most are content to stay. It is not "purely anecdotal," some have already selected that they will go on the new PP list. Also there have already been a handful of reversed decisions within the 824.
It is ironic when you accuse others of having some agenda.
It is ironic when you accuse others of having some agenda.
04-08-2017 | 09:36 AM
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Once again you accuse me of not being factual, you put words in my mouth, and unsurprisingly you are wrong. I agree it will delay the flow by at most a few months, but I neither said nor implied that it would be a "huge tremor," nor did I contradict that most are content to stay. It is not "purely anecdotal," some have already selected that they will go on the new PP list. Also there have already been a handful of reversed decisions within the 824.
It is ironic when you accuse others of having some agenda.
It is ironic when you accuse others of having some agenda.
04-08-2017 | 11:24 AM
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For once, you actually posted information that is accurate and free of opinion...mostly. Until your last paragraph. Truth is we don't know how many geezers will want the 3rd bite at the flow Apple. Most of them are content where they are...that is purely anecdotal of course...we can assume that some will choose to flow, no doubt. Either way it should only alter the PP flow by a few months in either direction. There aren't enough senior CAs who could possibly flow after the 824 to cause a huge tremor.
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