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bigtime209 05-22-2017 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by GoVandals (Post 2367178)
Are you subject to any negative paperwork or reviews by the company or union if you choose not to upgrade on the first or subsequent eligible periods?

When you do elect to upgrade you then fall into the same year of service pay that you previously held as a FO, correct?

Thanks.
No.

Yes.

Jersdawg 05-22-2017 05:20 AM
Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi (Post 2366905)
It's an individual decision. The pay will be slightly higher as a captain than FO with bonuses.
To me it's short sighted not to take the upgrade...i get that the flow is working as advertised but we all should know there are no guarantees in this business. And upgrading is hedging against something getting screwy with AA. It will make your resume more competitive, and also might as well challenge yourself a little more while you're at it.

lakehouse 05-22-2017 05:44 AM
I bipassed a bid and I'm glad I did

Jersdawg 05-22-2017 06:32 AM
Originally Posted by lakehouse (Post 2367281)
I bipassed a bid and I'm glad I did
But you took a bid, right? That's more what I'm talking about, guys that are choosing just not to upgrade. (The seat lock issue is a separate issue, in that situation I can understand it)

Purpleanga 05-22-2017 09:33 AM
Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2367272)
To me it's short sighted not to take the upgrade...i get that the flow is working as advertised but we all should know there are no guarantees in this business. And upgrading is hedging against something getting screwy with AA. It will make your resume more competitive, and also might as well challenge yourself a little more while you're at it.
Yea exactly, when you upgrade you add a totally different outlook and purpose to your job too. It's hard to see it because you get comfortable but it's way better to be a CA on reserve than a senior FO.


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