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ORDinary 08-09-2017 11:12 AM

Supposedly the rumor is not from recruitment but from the training department. Someone claimed they have over 1,000 training events behind schedule. I have absolutely no information beyond those anonymous posts. Just dreading the idea of it being true.

SilentLurker 08-10-2017 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2406843)
Almost as depressing as the rumors over on the AA threads saying that hiring over there will stop for the year after September because of training backlogs.



I've mentioned this could happen a few months ago. I asked if AA can handle, hire, or train 60 to 70+ pilots per month without a large training backlog much like the regionals (with the exception of Skywest, with a solid efficient management team).

ORDinary 08-10-2017 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2407693)
I've mentioned this could happen a few months ago. I asked if AA can handle, hire, or train 60 to 70+ pilots per month without a large training backlog much like the regionals (with the exception of Skywest, with a solid efficient management team).

Yeah, a lot of people have mentioned this when stating reasons why we didn't trust flow estimates.

In fairness to AA every retirement generates quite a few more training cycles compared to one pilot leaving a regional. That being said if they can't keep up now, what is going to happen when retirements double in 2 or 3 years? What will happen to flow times?

1Taco 08-10-2017 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by ORDinary (Post 2407917)
Yeah, a lot of people have mentioned this when stating reasons why we didn't trust flow estimates.

In fairness to AA every retirement generates quite a few more training cycles compared to one pilot leaving a regional. That being said if they can't keep up now, what is going to happen when retirements double in 2 or 3 years? What will happen to flow times?

Maybe that's why they've been adding on to GSW like crazy? Still no official word if they're not running a class in sept...

PSASUX 08-11-2017 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2406457)
Isn't psa flowing 2008 hires right now? Did they have a flow when they were hired?

No and no. The PSA flows are still 2007 hires. The flow did not come along until 2015.


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