A Potential Return
 

Greetings All,

I left for a Part 91 job in 2012 and am now considering returning to Envoy. I have a few questions.

Do medical benefits start on day one?

It's my understanding that the signing bonus of up to $22,100.00 is contingent on signing a 2 year contract. What are the factors that affect how much of a bonus you receive? Are there any other bonuses offered?

As far as upgrade time, it's my understanding that people with 1000+ 121 time can get an upgrade on the first bid. How long does it take to get off of IOE from date of upgrade award?

Thanks.

Wow! Probably a Captain by now and really close to flowing.

Sorry bro.

Never mind that guy. To answer your questions:

Yes. FYI if you're married and your spouse works they charge a "surcharge" of $100 a month in addition to the premium you pay for family. Penalty fee is a better name for it.

22,100 is for the 145 & crj. If you're old enough in the class to get the 175 then it'll be 17,500. You'll have to agree to the two year contract to receive a signing bonus. I'm told if you leave before completing two years you owe it back, but if you get a year done they'll pro rate it. So those are your choices - 22.1 or 17.5, don't sign=no bonus, sign=bonus, accept bonus=2 yr commitment

For upgrade, last I heard we have unfilled captain vacancies and if you qualify (2500TT, 1000/121) you can upgrade.

I'm not sure how backed up they are on IOE. My guess is a couple of weeks from the recent new guys I've talked to.
Hope that helps.

To answer the last question it really depends on what you are going into. Short answer is 10-16 weeks. If you are a FO and upgrade on the same equipment then you can get through training quicker through a qualified upgrade program vs long term program. 145 might be a couple weeks faster and than the 175. Senior guys get a to go first so there could be a 2-4 week difference in start dates from the most senior to the most junior pilot. From award to class the longest is 10 weeks to wait. After check ride to IOE is 4-5 days. FAA ride 1-2 weeks.

Keep in mind that those quick upgrades, basically street CA's will be on reserve, bottom of barrel indefinitely as many guys like myself are waiting for the 1000hrs will be ahead of them.

The grass isn't always greener isn't?

Brah! Are you still hoarding all that boom-chic-a-pop from first class? I heard you forgot the door code to D terminal the other day and couldn't get back in the jetbridge. Don't worry..happens to the best of us. My advice is to ride the DFW Skylink wearing your safety vest and sunglasses...that way everyone knows you mean business. Bonus points if you also wear an Apple Watch.

LOL....

Fill it...


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Thank you for the responses.

I left in 2012 for a corporate gig then fires and came back. Welcome to the fold. PM me if you want the details. It's been good to be back.

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RE-applying
 

Hey guys, I applied at Envoy last year in December, got the contingent offer letter, and after a week they retracted the offer. I still don't know why they did that. I put on application I was ready to start employment in 6 months from that date, (maybe that is why they denied me). No criminal history etc etc. (had 3 failures before, one of them was a type rating failure it was my first jet initial but then went there after a week did 1 sim session and passed it, and the other 2 were commercial single and commercial multi a long time ago) I don't know if their computer algorithm knocked me out for that or what. My question is, can I apply again after certain time and if yes, am I blackballed because of what happened last year when I applied? Now, when I apply, if I can re-apply, I will be ready to start class as soon as they call me. Different than when I applied last year I said I could start 6 months from that day.

Also, any news on the MIA base for new hires??

I am looking to leave 135 position to finally seek a career in 121 with a flow to AA. Please, advice anyone?

Thanks - Fly safe!

Re-apply and see how it goes. Piedmont won't take you with 3 failures on your record (at the moment) but PSA will so apply to them as well.

Once you get a contingent job offer, your file goes to a Captain review board and they have the final say. I'm almost positive the problem is the checkride failures. They've always been big on that. As the other guy said, look into PSA. There have been a number of guys that we turned down for checkride failures that were successful at getting on over there.

One of the guys there that were coordinating our biometrics that day did say it shouldn't be a problem as long as there weren't excessive checkride failures. I think you are right. I did email them again though and asked if I could reapply. Some people told me they also like persistence and with so many regionals out there they would like to see someone in my position to try to get in again. Any feedback on that? Do you think they will look another way if I apply again around next year? It would be 2 years later after my initial application. I currently fly a G4 all over the world for the same Boss for 3 years now and never had a other failure..

Thanka for your feedback

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I'm not a recruiter so I don't know how they view all of that. I'd recommend just reaching out to a recruiter directly and explaining the situation. I'd email them, explain the situation and your goals, and see if you can get someone to call you and chat with them. [email protected]