New Hire Uniforms
 

How does Envoy handle uniforms for new hires?
What dies the company provide?
What doe the pilot pay out of pocket (e.g. alterations)?
What is payroll deducted?
Uniform allowance?

Thank you,

New hires are fitted during the first week through (when I went through in June by twin hill a men's Warehouse company.

I received 7 shirts (2 long), 2 pants, tie, belt, hat, coat. 50% of the cost.

Not sure. I think you can exchange items for free up to a certain point. That's what I did.

50% of the cost. It was deducted $50 per check.

Don't think so.

Don’t buy the shirts. They aren’t even worth 50% off. Just get them from “a cut above” or crew outfitters at the airport. World of difference

This. The standard shirts are awful.

I don’t think they are that bad. Why spend your own money? Make them pay for part of your uniform! If the uniform doesn’t fit your body type, you may need to shop elsewhere. I would give them a shot before you go and drop hundreds on a bunch of shirts when you can get them for like $6 a piece. You will want to replace the shirts nearly every year as they begin to yellow. I recommend saving your money

I hear you. Makes sense to give them a shot. Still, if the household budget allows, I would rather spend the money to look sharp and feel comfortable. I was "fitted" at my current airline for a uniform and then spent the money on a tailor. It is weird to me airlines do not make the uniform more of a priority.

If you don't care that the fabric is so thin that it's see through, doesn't iron down well to keep wrinkles out, and rips very easily, then sure...save your money. They actually fit really well in my opinion, but the quality is garbage and look sloppy. Perhaps the MH shirts will be better. My new uniform still hasn't shipped so I'm still awaiting a verdict on the shirt quality.

Absolutely...and just as a filler.......the new hires have to fill all the prescribed items on the list or the it won’t let you hit the submit button (for initial order) for processing

So they forced you to spend money on something you don’t want at the “company store”? https://youtu.be/tfp2O9ADwGk

New Hire Uniforms
 

I guess I’m in the minority, the standard shirts fit me fine. No complaints. But I can see how the quality can bug guys. I will probably upgrade next round.

The shirts fit great. The quality of the material is abysmal though.

I hope you guys wear undershirts and iron every day

Yeah for sure. Like someone said above, they're nearly seethru. Not ironing is not an option - you'll look like a hobo if you don't iron. The fit is just fine though and the material takes two days to get used to. Best is the price - cost me nothing.

I haven't torn one yet and they iron just fine on my end. Just make sure you have a steam iron and/or a squirt bottle.

Anyone wearing "The Cut Above" shirts and any issues from CPO? The TCA shirts are much better quality and I have a few from my previous job. I agree the AA shirts fit well but many quality issues already stated by many so far on this thread.

This.

If you want a tie, a hat, a blazer, belt, euplets, etc, you're going to buy 6 shirts on the initial order whether you want them or not. I didn't want the hat or the gestapo coat. Could not submit order without them though.

For the most part, I don't mind the shirts. I do iron though and I do wear undershirts, but I'm pretty sure I would anyway. My only complaint is the reinforced eyelets don't match the metal pins making the reinforced part pointless. Have yet to tear any shirts because of it though.

i love the gestapo jacket. thing is great in vermont in january.

No issues, and furthermore, the pants from A Cut Above are much higher quality and match the issue blazer fine.

Cost you nothing? Someone said they take out $50 each month (or each paycheck?) Or do they give you $50 credit each month toward your indebtedness?

Oh yeah that was referring to when we got them during the uniform change. That doesn't apply to new hires, sorry about that. I don't have an answer to your question unfortunately.

I wear the company issued shirts with NO undershirt...then pray for rain. It's like a wet t-shirt contest and I'm the winner. I get an extra skip to my step walking through the terminal with my areolas on full display. I give people the "finger gun and wink" gesture as they stare with mouths agape.

In all seriousness....take those company issued shirts and start a bonfire. It's all they are good for. I buy all my uniform pieces from a third party website. I would tell you bums which one...but I don't want you cramping my style. ;)

For the guy that asked if there was any trouble from the cpo about wearing ACA shirts, No. No trouble at all. I've even seen some manager types wearing them on the line when they do thier occassional line flying. The A Cut Abive shirts are far supperior, IMO. They have lasted me a little over a year each, and I use 2 shirts for a 4 day trip, 3 if I work more than 4 days during a trip.

When your initial uniform ships, try them on and take them to Men's Warehouse to have any adjustments done. Tailoring and pressing / cleaning are free at Men's Warehouse. Just print off the uniform adjuatment form from the company website and take it with you. Personally, I've had to have all my uniform pieces tailored. I'm surprised at how bad they botched the initial fitting process. You'll probably also want to grab a needle and some thread and reinforce your buttons. My coat buttons seemed to be ready to fall off straight out of the box. If you want any of the non required items, such as the hat, order it with your initial order, otherwise you'll pay full price later.

My initial order was one pair of pants, two short sleeves, two long sleeves, a blazer, and epaulets. I didn't get all the rest of it.

I didn't have trouble checking out... and have since gone back and used the rest of my company stipend to buy an all-weather coat... thinking about ordering the sweater.

Everyone says you need to fill out the required minimum order, but I didn't.

I don't spend much time there.

Lucky you. I could not hit the submit button. Would much rather have the all weather coat but don't want to spend the money on another coat.

Once you get the trench coat send it right back to exchange it for the all weather coat at no charge. That’s what I did about 12 months ago.

1 word. The NorthFace.

With your backpack on your shoulder and headphones?

What does everyone use for luggage? Popping my regional cherry with class date soon and want to start researching bags. I will have a 15" laptop that I'd like to somewhat protect as well.

Luggageworks for the rolling bag. Aerocoast coolers for a lunch cooler/efb carrier

Would you recommend the Stealth for the luggage works?

Yes, or the Executive I think it’s called. Just like the stealth but with plastic trim instead of metal. It’s lighter and the plastic gives a bit instead of bending.

Oh man. Been 9 months now for me. I doubt they'd do it now even though it's not been worn.

The one I got has the metal frame. If I had my time again I’d go the lighter one.

Are you not worried about durability with the plastic at all?

My metal frame is already bent like a banana after 12 months on the line. And that’s before my wife drive over it with the SUV.

I have the plastic one. The corners are still metal, the plastic is tough, and I’m very glad I got it instead of the metal.

I use strongbag. Had it for a year and no issues.

Whatever happened to the days of using a Costco bag and doing the yearly return to get a new one, in part to their generous return policies?

Integrity?

Got em!

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