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Virga show 01-27-2018 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2513396)
That still doesn’t add up. How many hours per month do you credit on average?

Average around 95 to 100 maybe more pending on how much OT is available. I understand because you hold a line you can have more days off and therefore pick up more OT than someone on reserve but at the end of the day while your getting 120 hours of credit and I’m getting 100 hours of credit, I’m only Flying 36 hours total that month while if your flying a line you are probably do 75-80 hours of flying plus any overtime you pick up on the side. All I’m saying is while you are working to get the 120 hours of credit I’m sitting at home and working 3-4 days a month as a senior FO on reserve getting close to 100 hours of credit.

HoustonPilot 01-27-2018 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Virga show (Post 2513434)
Average around 95 to 100 maybe more pending on how much OT is available. I understand because you hold a line you can have more days off and therefore pick up more OT than someone on reserve but at the end of the day while your getting 120 hours of credit and I’m getting 100 hours of credit, I’m only Flying 36 hours total that month while if your flying a line you are probably do 75-80 hours of flying plus any overtime you pick up on the side. All I’m saying is while you are working to get the 120 hours of credit I’m sitting at home and working 3-4 days a month as a senior FO on reserve getting close to 100 hours of credit.

Teach me the ways Obi Wan.

havick206 01-27-2018 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Virga show (Post 2513434)
Average around 95 to 100 maybe more pending on how much OT is available. I understand because you hold a line you can have more days off and therefore pick up more OT than someone on reserve but at the end of the day while your getting 120 hours of credit and I’m getting 100 hours of credit, I’m only Flying 36 hours total that month while if your flying a line you are probably do 75-80 hours of flying plus any overtime you pick up on the side. All I’m saying is while you are working to get the 120 hours of credit I’m sitting at home and working 3-4 days a month as a senior FO on reserve getting close to 100 hours of credit.

Your math is still off. I’m only ACTUALLY flying total 77 average hour per month INCLUDING the OT I pick up and crediting an average of 120-130 hours a month. I’m also getting 12-13 days on average at home (that I can’t be called in for).

You’re obviously not at LGA either because the most senior FO on reserve in LGA is seniority 1770 something (probably hired 6-8 months after me) and getting used for stby or flying regularly. So if I bid a reserve line in LGA I’d spend more days AT work for much less credit hours being called in all the time.

Not only is your math off, but you’re also comparing different bases with much different usage of reserve bodies. I’m guessing your base, senior FO’s on reserve won’t get called in at all hence the desire to bid a reserve line.

That all being said I don’t quite understand why you feel the need to disparage someone for wanting to uograde and get some PIC jet time and move on to other things? Not everyone is locked in to flowing to AA that works at Envoy, there’s a whole wide world of different options for employment. If you personally plan to sit at home on reserve and cherry pick OT on your days off then good for you, I’d rather be doing that on CA’s wages if I’m going to be called in to sit STBY anyway at LGA.

Bigpimppilot 01-28-2018 02:43 AM

Your both right

Aviatrx 01-28-2018 04:58 AM

What is second year CA pay again?

AZPilotMike 01-28-2018 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Aviatrx (Post 2513533)
What is second year CA pay again?

$21 less an hour than a Captain at Endeavor makes.

So $71

bigtime209 01-28-2018 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by AZPilotMike (Post 2513843)
$21 less an hour than a Captain at Endeavor makes.

So $71

And only $8/hr more than an FO at EDV makes.

AZPilotMike 01-28-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2513844)
And only $8/hr more than an FO at EDV makes.

Bingo. Depressing. Good for them though.

Gooselives 01-28-2018 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by AZPilotMike (Post 2513855)
Bingo. Depressing. Good for them though.

Disgusting and nothing is being done about it! Email union and management. Make voice heard.

3GreenKSNA 01-28-2018 12:35 PM

As a mid to upper 1/3rd of the list FO on the 175 in DFW in December i worked three times, two of those I profered for as I was bored. That total was 27 hours. In September I only did 18. Living in base makes being a sand bag on reserve highly tolerable. Viva dinero con no trabajo.

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