Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Envoy Airlines (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/)
-   -   New hire options, reserve, and line schedules (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/113194-new-hire-options-reserve-line-schedules.html)

armypilot 04-24-2018 08:02 AM

New hire options, reserve, and line schedules
 
I was able to slide into a July class. I've been reading the threads and know the likely hood of LGA 145 is very real. I am being told that I was able to get a class fairly quickly (I had May and June options available) because I'm being hired as a "Near Direct Entry Captain" due to my military time and some 135 time I have. I don't quite meet the minimums for a Direct Entry Captain, so will I have the 175 as an option or will I be locked into the 145 based on my previous experience?

That being said, I was hoping y'all could elaborate on what reserve schedules and line schedules will most likely look like for both air frames, how quickly one could hold a line at any base, and probably the most common question, how quickly one could get to DFW.

Thanks!
AP

Virga show 04-24-2018 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by armypilot (Post 2579061)
I was able to slide into a July class. I've been reading the threads and know the likely hood of LGA 145 is very real. I am being told that I was able to get a class fairly quickly (I had May and June options available) because I'm being hired as a "Near Direct Entry Captain" due to my military time and some 135 time I have. I don't quite meet the minimums for a Direct Entry Captain, so will I have the 175 as an option or will I be locked into the 145 based on my previous experience?

That being said, I was hoping y'all could elaborate on what reserve schedules and line schedules will most likely look like for both air frames, how quickly one could hold a line at any base, and probably the most common question, how quickly one could get to DFW.

Thanks!
AP

If you are gonna be a almost DEC don’t plan on seeing DFW anytime soon. As soon as you upgrade you will be in a LGA crash pad commuting to standby for a very long time. Any extra money as a CA you earn will be taken by buying food and crash pad. Also, if you have a family don’t plan on seeing them for 20 days a month.

flysooner9 04-24-2018 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Virga show (Post 2579106)
If you are gonna be a almost DEC don’t plan on seeing DFW anytime soon. As soon as you upgrade you will be in a LGA crash pad commuting to standby for a very long time. Any extra money as a CA you earn will be taken by buying food and crash pad. Also, if you have a family don’t plan on seeing them for 20 days a month.

This isn’t entirely true. Reserve yes probably for a while. Airport stby forever no.

Virga show 04-24-2018 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2579140)
This isn’t entirely true. Reserve yes probably for a while. Airport stby forever no.

Didn’t say forever

PiperPilot03 04-24-2018 10:47 AM

Even if you have the option of the 175, take the 145. When you have the captain mins, you are going to be displaced into the 145 anyways so might as well only learn 1 plane.

Pat2389 04-24-2018 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by PiperPilot03 (Post 2579204)
Even if you have the option of the 175, take the 145. When you have the captain mins, you are going to be displaced into the 145 anyways so might as well only learn 1 plane.

So very true. Lot of us going 175 FO to 145 CA

NoValueAviator 04-24-2018 11:18 AM

I disagree with the advice to ask for 145. Get the 175, go through training, pocket the type and the HUGE (months) amount of paid time off built into the 175 training footprint, then turn around and do the same thing on the 145 (much less time, a week or two) when they displace you.

Pedro4President 04-24-2018 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2579228)
I disagree with the advice to ask for 145. Get the 175, go through training, pocket the type and the HUGE (months) amount of paid time off built into the 175 training footprint, then turn around and do the same thing on the 145 (much less time, a week or two) when they displace you.

That's not a bad way to look at it. However he would be leaving 5k on the table. But it may be worth it for an extra type.

moon 04-24-2018 11:28 AM

Two type rides in 6 months? Good luck not getting those 2 planes confused!

NoValueAviator 04-24-2018 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2579232)
That's not a bad way to look at it. However he would be leaving 5k on the table. But it may be worth it for an extra type.

I think it is. 175 type opens doors globally, and AA flies them as the ERJ-190. 145 type is essentially worthless beyond allowing you to do your job at Envoy.

havick206 04-24-2018 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by PiperPilot03 (Post 2579204)
Even if you have the option of the 175, take the 145. When you have the captain mins, you are going to be displaced into the 145 anyways so might as well only learn 1 plane.

Also you will miss out on the extra 5k bonus if you pick the 175 and end up in the 145 anyway

flysooner9 04-24-2018 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2579243)
I think it is. 175 type opens doors globally, and AA flies them as the ERJ-190. 145 type is essentially worthless beyond allowing you to do your job at Envoy.

No airline besides maybe SWA cares if your typed in one of their planes or not.

NoValueAviator 04-25-2018 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2579378)
No airline besides maybe SWA cares if your typed in one of their planes or not.

A lot of foreign airlines care a lot.

havick206 04-25-2018 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2579773)
A lot of foreign airlines care a lot.

All the asian contracts definitely care about being typed and time on type.

flysooner9 04-25-2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2579778)
All the asian contracts definitely care about being typed and time on type.

Who’s wants to go to Asia with our current hiring climate?

havick206 04-25-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2579862)
Who’s wants to go to Asia with our current hiring climate?

Not many, simply pointing out that outside of the USA type hours do matter. Not that many from the USA have the need to go for one of those 300k + E190 contracts.

Bigpimppilot 04-25-2018 11:46 AM

It’s worth 5k not to do Waco turns


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:24 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands