LGA Reserve
 

What is LGA 145 reserve like? Is it only airport reserve?

Brutal. No.

Can you give details

How long is the RSV in LGA for DEC? How long to hold MIA base?

2 2017 hire LGA CA's I personally know were awarded MIA the last bid. That being said, I'd be curious to see what happens to some of these guys when the first of the massive FO hiring wave many of which are senior to these guys starts upgrading..

Reserve will probably be at least 2 years for a DEC no matter what base they're in.

This depends if they come quickly and a bunch of dec join after we have about 40 reserve captains in LGA we have hired about 50 dec the company’s stated goal was 200 some might get other bases. If your in the second half expect reserve to be minimum 2.5 years.

^^^^. Reserve time isn't based on a chronological clock. It's based on how many pilots get hired after you. Since the DEC program isn't working very well then I'd say it's going to be longer than predicted by recruiters. The stories those guys tell sometimes are unbelievable.

Really speaks to how crappy our reserve and QOL rules are when we cant even get many to come with a 50K bonus and instant upgrade.

Is reserve usually short and long call at LGA? For F/O and CA

Longest you’ll see after a couple months and not being on the bottom of the reserve list is a 3 hour call out. Everything else is airport appreciation time.

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I saw that TSA has been offering a $45K bonus to NHs. Still can’t fill classes. Nobody wants to be stuck at a commuter airline. Seems NHs have wised up to bonus schemes. They are more attentive to QOL, Rsv rules, base options, pay rate/soft pay, Flow/CPP/DGI programs.

It's bad for commuters. It really is terrible. If you live in base then I think it's better than the best lines that we have right now. Especially if you are senior. Bid for a CDO and your first day back you get a late start and early finish plus you get about 30 hours at home before you know you have to go back in. Follow it up with a two day or a three day get done early on the last day. It's also likely you won't get called out off a RAP. Turn backs are rare but they are on the rise now. Time away from base is still half or a third of what line holders get plus I credit 90-95 a month.

He asked about LGA reserve not DFW, LGA doesn’t have any CDO lines

Well, the topic kinda ended up on the state of Envoy reserve. Regardless reserve isn't that bad if you live in base and we are staffed appropriately. If you commute and/or we are short staffed then reserve is brutal.

I hear you, just making sure the guy when asked knew the difference between the bases. Otherwise I agree with you

Ahhhh thanks for the clarification.

I was a bit slow this morning.

Does anyone actually live in/around NYC for that sweet reserve in base lifestyle?

The only Envoy pilot I know who lives in NYC bid 175 ORD, lol.

Searched the existing threads and haven't really found a straight and/or current answer to reserve times. How long would you expect to be sitting reserve as a new FO? How long to hold a line for:

LGA 145
DFW 145
DFW 175

Most senior reserve FO’s as of today that couldn’t hold a line (ie not deliberately bidding reserve);

LGA 145 - DOH - 11/06/17
DFW 145 - DOH 05/08/17
DFW 175 - DOH 04/25/16

Thanks!!

If you were assigned 145 LGA out of training, how long would it take to bid DFW reserve? Or does it work like that? Sorry, non-121 guy here. Lots of ignorance.

2 years to hold a line for DFW 175? That’s even worse than MSP here at 9E

Keep in mind those dates will get shorter as more aircraft arrive and more lines are built as well as the fact they’ve slowed FO hiring.

Who cares, pay rates are the same between the 145 and 175. Just bid the 145 if you want a line quick.

Not quite true for LGA. I was in the 11/6 class and the most junior guy from my class that went to LGA is currently holding a line. Those of us that are currently the top 4 on the LGA reserve list are 11/6 hires, but we are here on regular, non home based TDY, so we bid the left overs. Those from my class who did home based TDY this month all held lines.

Well then sir what is the correct answer?

So it’s going to a a class date (2 weeks either side) if that new hire class date. That’s about as close you are going to get by pulling up the reserve lists and taking out the obvious senior reserve line bidders.

If you want to split hairs then feel free to pull the reserve lists for each base, then cross reference the relevant people against the seniority list, and look up their new hire date yourself and correct my list if you have more accurate info and want to go into the minutia of TDY’s. Should only take you 5 mins or so.

Exactly.... you know I could see calling you out if you were way off but off by one or two class dates is pretty accurate. A line holder today could be a reserve pilot tomorrow.

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That seems off. I’m a 4/25/16 hire, came in with 0 121 and currently ORD E75 Captain (on reserve).


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I’m flying with a guy on my line that was hired 11/20/17 LGA 145

This cant be correct as I was a late 2016 new hire and was holding a line within 3 months. FO. I can’t imagine that suddenly that would jump by over a year.

Which base/equipment are you specifically talking about?

Look up the reserves lists yourself and cross reference it against the seniority list to get the persons date of hire and post here any different results please.

What I came up with was by using the above method only removing the senior pilots on reserve that were deliberately bidding reserve, not accounting for TDY’s because o couldn’t be bothered working out who/how many was TDY. Also the list only responds to the person who asked for specific base/equipment FO.

What? There's plenty who live in the NYC area.

The last I heard, 80-85% of LGA guys are commuters.

Just found out that the NYC Airporter no longer does lga-jfk transfers. Lovely.

What's are guys doing now?

$165 Uber rides?

Well I just spend $24 to get from lga to jfk using the Uber pool option.

Lady said that the only option left was taking a cab. She didn’t say why it ended or if it would restart. She also mentioned there was super shuttle, which was a $122 fee from lga to jfk.

There’s got to be another way that I’m not finding. Too bad, they had a good service going.

Try “Juno”, same as Uber, sometimes cheaper

I don’t know if anyone has tried this route but you could Uber it or if you’re brave bus it to Woodside from LGA. Jump on the LIRR to Jamaica then the Airtrain to JFK. Airtrain is $5 each way and the LIRR is $7.25 off peak and $10.25 on peak. Not sure how much the Uber would be but it’s not a far ride at all. Probably would be faster then Uber between the 2 ports also.

How about taking the E train to Jackson Heights and then the Q70 bus to LGA?