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NoValueAviator 05-06-2018 04:48 AM

What about the 175 makes it not a regional airliner? The fact that you're on it? Lol

Inop2 05-06-2018 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Virga show (Post 2587034)
Because that route only takes 17 minutes. Until a major national airline picks that route up (which they will NOT) then we will be considered a regional carrier

A national airline has to pick up THAT route in order to not consider us a regional? Disagree with that premise on “short flight” being the benchmark. I believe there are shorter flights than Waco that are flown by national airlines. Haven’t researched it but I’m sure I could find something.

Inop2 05-06-2018 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2587277)
What about the 175 makes it not a regional airliner? The fact that you're on it? Lol

This is a good example of how some members here make a diving catch in the in-zone to diminish what we really do here. You’re managements best tool.

Bassman1985 05-06-2018 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2587277)
What about the 175 makes it not a regional airliner? The fact that you're on it? Lol

The fact that AA mainline operates the same type as American Airlines rather than Eagle.

AZPilotMike 05-06-2018 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2587277)
What about the 175 makes it not a regional airliner? The fact that you're on it? Lol

So what is your definition of regional than?

regional
[ree-juh-nl]
adjective
of or relating to a region of considerable extent; not merely local:
a regional meeting of the Boy Scouts.

of or relating to a particular region, district, area, or part, as of a country; sectional; local:

So we certainly fly into different regions than we departed unless you consider DFW and Calgary as the same region or DFW and Montreal the same region or how about ORD and JAX the same.

Add the fact that we fly the same type rating as they do mainline, with literally no difference other than passenger count.

SilentLurker 05-06-2018 01:05 PM

False advertising by Envoy
 

Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2587307)
A national airline has to pick up THAT route in order to not consider us a regional? Disagree with that premise on “short flight” being the benchmark. I believe there are shorter flights than Waco that are flown by national airlines. Haven’t researched it but I’m sure I could find something.



Does GRR-ORD flts by mainline AA count as a short flight, or a Regional Flight or a commuter puddle jumper?

SilentLurker 05-06-2018 03:18 PM

False advertising by Envoy
 

Originally Posted by Inop2 (Post 2587311)
This is a good example of how some members here make a diving catch in the in-zone to diminish what we really do here. You’re managements best tool.


I agree


Originally Posted by AZPilotMike (Post 2587601)
So what is your definition of regional than?



regional

[ree-juh-nl]

adjective

of or relating to a region of considerable extent; not merely local:

a regional meeting of the Boy Scouts.



of or relating to a particular region, district, area, or part, as of a country; sectional; local:



So we certainly fly into different regions than we departed unless you consider DFW and Calgary as the same region or DFW and Montreal the same region or how about ORD and JAX the same.



Add the fact that we fly the same type rating as they do mainline, with literally no difference other than passenger count.


I agree as well. ALPA & mainline benefits the most from this system.


These are the reasons why scope choke is important. Regional pilot groups should never don’t want to see regional growth... i.e Skywest, Envoy, etc.

Skip0927 05-06-2018 07:33 PM

Let’s refocus.

Tell me more about this Chubby Chaser concept....

LineUpAndPay 05-07-2018 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by Skip0927 (Post 2587806)
Let’s refocus.

Tell me more about this Chubby Chaser concept....

Slump Buster

Inop2 05-07-2018 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by Skip0927 (Post 2587806)
Let’s refocus.

Tell me more about this Chubby Chaser concept....

Lol

10 char min


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