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bigtime209 05-19-2018 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 2597335)
That's all great and stuff, but

- How long till you flow to AA? How long to Spirit/JetBlue?
- How long to upgrade to NB CA at AA/Spirit/JetBlue?
- How long to hold the base you want at all of the above?
- How likely are you to keep the job if economy tanks? What if the oil price doubles?
- How are the QoL items? STD/LTD? 401k contributions? How many years you have left till 65?
It doesn't automatically boil to $/hr and there is no one size fits all answer

The point of my post was to squash the misconception that the new JB AIP and Spirit TA will have higher hourly rates. Would it be foolish for some people to wait around and flow to AA when they could possibly go to JB? Absolutely. I don't need to rehash all the reasons that someone should jump on a JB opportunity as opposed to waiting to flow, you laid all of that out. I was simply pointing out a fact.

bigtime209 05-19-2018 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2597366)
Thanks you and everyone for the advice and some input. Honestly. This is why the forum exists.. that AND to **** talk, of course :D

You bet. If you've never been in the 121 game and never have commuted, you simply don't realized how awful commuting is. It really can make the job miserable and can make life stressful. You're number 1 priority when picking base/equipment is to pick whatever gets you driving to work ASAP. There's no plane in existence that is worth a commute if it pays exactly the same. Good luck!

BigZ 05-19-2018 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2597447)
The point of my post was to squash the misconception that the new JB AIP and Spirit TA will have higher hourly rates. Would it be foolish for some people to wait around and flow to AA when they could possibly go to JB? Absolutely. I don't need to rehash all the reasons that someone should jump on a JB opportunity as opposed to waiting to flow, you laid all of that out. I was simply pointing out a fact.

My reply wasn't so much to counter your post, more to supplement it with more factors.
Along the line of "yes, 140 is better than 120, if you can start getting either tomorrow. Five years at 70 to get to 140 vs 120 tomorrow is a net loss of 150 over ten years"

SoFloFlyer 05-20-2018 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2597449)
You bet. If you've never been in the 121 game and never have commuted, you simply don't realized how awful commuting is. It really can make the job miserable and can make life stressful. You're number 1 priority when picking base/equipment is to pick whatever gets you driving to work ASAP. There's no plane in existence that is worth a commute if it pays exactly the same. Good luck!

Definitely not in the 121 world yet, but I’ll definitely take your word for it! You’re not the only one to have said that! Thanks again and I’ll see you up in the flight levels soon!

Otterbox 05-20-2018 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2597089)
I’d figure that the 175 would be fun to fly until I get my 1000 hours and upgrade to the 145. That’s probably shiny jet syndrome talking haha I’ll end up picking 145 so I can eventually drive to work. I hope the 175 comes to MIA, that’d be a game changer for me.

If you can drive to work and plan on upgrading into the 145, it makes the most sense to be a 145 FO... you’ll be setup for success better.

Ijustlikeflying 05-20-2018 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2597089)
I’d figure that the 175 would be fun to fly until I get my 1000 hours and upgrade to the 145. That’s probably shiny jet syndrome talking haha I’ll end up picking 145 so I can eventually drive to work. I hope the 175 comes to MIA, that’d be a game changer for me.

It’s a jet. Don’t be stupid. Pick your base, based on where you want to live. They all pay the same. Commuting on a 3hour flight to another base 4 to 5 times a month for a cool instagram photo to brag to your friends you got the 175 is not worth it. Oh, and they don’t care.

175 will be in Miami eventually. Republic is on their way out. We are taking back more and more of their flying every month that goes by.

RabidW0mbat 05-21-2018 08:28 AM

For a new FO, 0 121 time, is ORD a reasonable expectation out of training, or will one get to enjoy LGA for a while?

MD-11Loader 05-21-2018 08:52 AM

I would take the three months in LGA and accumulate some flight time. Unless you live in ORD you may as well take the positive space passes and unlimited commuter hotels. You’ll be deep down on the reserve list in ORD and will barely fly.

NoValueAviator 05-21-2018 09:08 AM

You can get ORD (in class) or even DFW out of training on the 175. You will be stuck in LGA on the 145, probably for quite a while, unless you want MIA where you might be able to get out sooner.

RabidW0mbat 05-21-2018 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2598872)
I would take the three months in LGA and accumulate some flight time. Unless you live in ORD you may as well take the positive space passes and unlimited commuter hotels. You’ll be deep down on the reserve list in ORD and will barely fly.

I live in ORD, so reserve is ok.


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