Direct Entry Captain QOL? Is it worth it?
#11
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Joined APC: May 2016
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As long as they are forcing FOs to displace to CAs then there is a chance for DECS to get bumped back to LGA/ORD. It's really hard to predict since we are going to loose 174 pilots between now and November just due to flow. Add another 7 per month and that's 216 CA vacancies due to attrition. This means there will likely to continue to force upgrades. So far we have hired 50 DECS per the union seniority list. It looks like we are hiring more CAs then we expected.
Last edited by Pedro4President; 05-22-2018 at 03:17 PM.
#12
Hey guys,
I've been doing some research about this, but the information is scattered all over the forums and I would like to hear from other pilots who have done this move.
I'm close to 1000 121, but not so close to upgrade. I live in Florida and would like to stay here, so I've been considering the DEC at Envoy.
It is my understanding that all the DECs are being sent to LGA until you can hold some other base. How long is it currently taking for DECs to hold MIA? How bad was sitting reserve in LGA? Would you recommend doing this?
If I was to do this, I'd move up to LGA until I can hold MIA and then come back to FL, so commuting wouldn't be an issue.
I appreciate your input.
I've been doing some research about this, but the information is scattered all over the forums and I would like to hear from other pilots who have done this move.
I'm close to 1000 121, but not so close to upgrade. I live in Florida and would like to stay here, so I've been considering the DEC at Envoy.
It is my understanding that all the DECs are being sent to LGA until you can hold some other base. How long is it currently taking for DECs to hold MIA? How bad was sitting reserve in LGA? Would you recommend doing this?
If I was to do this, I'd move up to LGA until I can hold MIA and then come back to FL, so commuting wouldn't be an issue.
I appreciate your input.
#13
New Hire
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#16
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 34
The biggest problem for prospective DECs is that pretty soon they won't be needed. Our FOs will have the time to upgrade, and we'll be hiring more FOs. If you get stuck as one of the last DECs hired, you're looking at being a junior CA for a loooong time.
#17
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
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Late-ish 2017 new hires getting a taste of composite or hard lines this month, being bumped back to middle of reserve list next month. It’s not as if this comes as any surprise.
#18
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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I think the DECs are doing fine so long as they stay in LGA. Most are holding lines within a few months. It’s when they try and leave that base that I think the problems arise.
Anyway, we want more DECs, at least those of us already on the seniority list as they take spots we mostly don’t want to fill. In their defense they are getting large payouts to do it.
Anyway, we want more DECs, at least those of us already on the seniority list as they take spots we mostly don’t want to fill. In their defense they are getting large payouts to do it.
#19
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I think the DECs are doing fine so long as they stay in LGA. Most are holding lines within a few months. It’s when they try and leave that base that I think the problems arise.
Anyway, we want more DECs, at least those of us already on the seniority list as they take spots we mostly don’t want to fill. In their defense they are getting large payouts to do it.
Anyway, we want more DECs, at least those of us already on the seniority list as they take spots we mostly don’t want to fill. In their defense they are getting large payouts to do it.
#20
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
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