Good point! I didn't considered this.

You dont have to be in uniform, that is correct, but you do need to be in business casual and able to perform the duties of a crew member. In addition, I am not advocating getting out of work through the policy, just want to make that doubly apparent.

2. I didn't see where anyone said you have to be in uniform to commute. Someone did say you should be in jumpseating attire anytime you nonrev and is good advice if you want to have the jumpseat as an option to get where you're going. But you do NOT have to wear your uniform to ride the jumpseat.

4. Work here long enough and you'll figure out why we tend to think that management will interpret the contract in the way that least suits you. That said, griff changed my mind with his post. You may get some grief from the CPO (IF they knew) but I think you'd have a good leg to stand on if it had to go as far as a grievance.

Edit: Looks like we were posting at the same time.

Can anyone provide insight on a 2 leg commute?

For example, do you give youseself 2 flights per leg, or 2 from home, or 2 to get to work? The contract is not clear on this.

In any case, does commuting the day before work show good faith no matter what happens?

" What counts as 2 good faith attempts, when you have a 2 leg commute", has been a gray area that no one seems to be able to definitively answer. I've heard it from people that DO have 2 leg commutes, that if you make the 1st leg, and are unable to get to base from the intermediate station, that that is good enough. It makes since, why would you strand yourself away from home and base, to get out of work? Having said that, it's not black and white in the contract, and probably up to the cpo reviewing the situation.
Yes, one should always make the best effort to get to work on time. And I'm sure no one is advocating abusing the policy. Commuting a day early, especially when you don't have to, shows a good faith effort, even if you forego the jumpseat. Say you give up a jumpseat commuting a day early, to someone who has to report the day of, because you believe you'll get on the next flight, then don't get on the next one for some reason. I don't think the cpo will have a problem with that. As long as they believe you genuinely tried to get to work, but were unable due to circumstances out of your control. As far as being required to take the JS, I believe that if you're commuting on the day of your trip, then you're somewhat obligated to take it (whilst also meeting JS attire requirments), if it's the last resort, especially if it's on the last attempt. (Unless you are denied, or JS is unavailable. But you may have to explain "why" when clearing the MA). However, JS on your day off should not be a hard requirment, for reasons stated earlier. It's your day off man!

Anyone have an answer for this?

They don’t care where you commute from or where you live. They just want you to get to work. Commuter policy is used for getting to work no matter where you come from. It’s not that hard to understand.

2 leg commutes are hard. You should leave yourself 2 flights to get to the intermediate airport, then 2 flights to get to base. If you don’t, the chief pilot will absolutely give you a MA if he chooses too. Usually the CP will give you a strong warning because a 2 leg commute is hard and a lot can go wrong quickly. If you plan on a 2 leg commute, be prepared to often leave the day before. If that was the case then people with a 1 leg commute could easily make it a 2 leg commute to try and use the system. Just be at work when you’re supposed to be there.

I am a DFW commuter, and when I first started commuting to ORD, I would often 2-leg as the flight loads looked way better going via TUL, XNA, etc (plus the metal was often ENY, which helped getting the JS). The CPO, told me not to do this as many times there was only one flight from the secondary city, and they said I was better off trying for 2 direct flights, then trying to get guidance on what would happen if I did not make it from the intermediate city...Fine by me!

They appreciated the 'good faith gesture' but at the end of the day this is way better for me...just going home if I dont make it vs. stuck in TUL. Of course if you have 2-leg...YMMV.

Boiler Up!

Ive got a good scenario.

Lets say you have a trip starting at 10am the next day and theres 1 flight that same day that gets you there before then. Theoretically if you try the last flight out the night before and that bangs, and that morning flight also bangs, would you still say thats 2 attempts? After all the contract only says 2 attempts that get you there before sign in time.