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cr700 07-16-2018 04:23 AM
Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2635520)
Whenever I see people flowing with 5.5 years I’ll belive it. People from 2007-2008 are flowing right now. That’s 10-11 years.
You're twisting the facts. The 5.5 is for someone hired 2016 going forward. The math and projections have already been done by both the company and union and it adds up. Get your facts straight.

EmbaeDriver 07-16-2018 04:30 AM
Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2635651)
You're twisting the facts. The 5.5 is for someone hired 2016 going forward. The math and projections have already been done by both the company and union and it adds up. Get your facts straight.
You say it “projection”, it doesn’t mean it will happen.

FullThrust 07-16-2018 04:49 AM
Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2635520)
Whenever I see people flowing with 5.5 years I’ll belive it. People from 2007-2008 are flowing right now. That’s 10-11 years.
Right, but there were not many people hired during the 2008-2011 timeframe. So the flow time will drop significantly once the last 2008 hire flows. Also, the ALPA flow projection assumes zero outside attrition. While the outside attrition isn’t that large, it is still a non-zero number and as such will lessen the ALPA projections.

cr700 07-16-2018 04:57 AM
Originally Posted by FullThrust (Post 2635666)
Right, but there were not many people hired during the 2008-2011 timeframe. So the flow time will drop significantly once the last 2008 hire flows. Also, the ALPA flow projection assumes zero outside attrition. While the outside attrition isn’t that large, it is still a non-zero number and as such will lessen the ALPA projections.
^^^^Somebody gets it.

cr700 07-16-2018 04:59 AM
Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2635653)
You say it “projection”, it doesn’t mean it will happen.
Do you even work for Envoy? Or are you working at a shyster company like Mesa or Trans States because you couldn't get hired here and are just throwing rocks because you missed out on your AA job.

EmbaeDriver 07-16-2018 06:42 AM
Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 2635669)
Do you even work for Envoy? Or are you working at a shyster company like Mesa or Trans States because you couldn't get hired here and are just throwing rocks because you missed out on your AA job.
Looks like you’re one of those pilots living believing all the rumors. Good luck.


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