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The EMB-145
I am going to be bidding the 145. My class date is next month. What is the overall opinion of the 145 from a pilot's perspective? What does it do great? What does it do not so great?
Thanks in advance for your time! |
Originally Posted by razorback93
(Post 2635890)
I am going to be bidding the 145. My class date is next month. What is the overall opinion of the 145 from a pilot's perspective? What does it do great? What does it do not so great?
Thanks in advance for your time! |
I did..thanks for that lol
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It’s a good airplane. Don’t expect amazing speed or performance, she’s a pug when it’s hot. The FMS leaves a lot to be desired, but it does the job. It’s a great first jet and an excellent plane to cut your teeth on. It handles well, the systems aren’t overly complex, and you’ll fly with a lot of great captains. Best of luck to you.
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Thank you for your reply. Looking forward to flying with Envoy.
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Fun to hand fly, lots of feedback coming through the yoke. Slow cruiser, terrible climber - you say "unable - performance" more than you ever thought you would in a jet. Big fat safety margins on everything, hard to kill yourself with it and tons of nice round easily memorized numbers in the book. Quite a few bizarre idiosyncracies. Cuts your power with no warning besides the flight instrument/EICAS indications pulling back when it needs the air for the automatic ice protection. Rickety and cheap construction, makes a lot of noise. FMS has most of what you'd need but is very poorly executed - inefficient, counterintuitive layout and functions hidden away in contexts that don't make sense. Make sure your big ol nuts aren't in the path of that yoke when your captain makes his first landing on IOE, or you're not going to have to worry about sending kids to college.
Overall I like it. |
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2636011)
Make sure your big ol nuts aren't in the path of that yoke when your captain makes his first landing on IOE, or you're not going to have to worry about sending kids to college.
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My biggest complaint about the EMB-145 isn't about the plane at all, its about the schedules. The 145 does most of the short hops for Envoy so you'll see a lot more 5 leg days and really low credit hour OT opportunities.
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As stated 5 leg days can wear you down, but if they’re short legs and all through your home base they’re not bad, unless it’s go home day.
On the other hand we have way more of a variety in flying compared to the 175 and especially the CRJ. You’ll do flying through all 4 bases plus Boston and Charlotte. The airplane itself is definitely made for shorter legs, has lots of kinks and you’ll learn all the tricks on the line. It’s not fast but overall it’s a solid airplane that’s very forgiving, can be flown almost 250 to the marker and has good landing performance. Pay attention to takeoff performance, especially when it’s warm. And don’t be surprised when it starts acting strange when it’s cold, or when the gpu is plugged in. |
Oh yeah, I forgot about that but it wouldn't be fair to the jungle jet not to mention it. The flip side to not being able to climb is that the thing will fall out of the sky on command. Very reassuring when they leave you high as they often do.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2636824)
Oh yeah, I forgot about that but it wouldn't be fair to the jungle jet not to mention it. The flip side to not being able to climb is that the thing will fall out of the sky on command. Very reassuring when they leave you high as they often do.
Some jets (like a heavy 321) can neither climb well, nor descend/slow down well. |
Since this is an e jet talk, I've always been curious about the bicycle looking yoke. How do yall like it/hate it?
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
(Post 2637195)
Since this is an e jet talk, I've always been curious about the bicycle looking yoke. How do yall like it/hate it?
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2637226)
As far as shape goes, it does a pretty good job clearing the knees at least for general use (not aileron rolls), but makes it harder to be precise with roll inputs, though the plane is pretty numb in the roll anyway because the ailerons are boosted.
Also as said before it's a VERY forgiving airplane with a large envelope at altitude compared to the CRJ. .58-.78 vs .74-.83 Mach at altitude 250-280 vs 270-310 in the climb |
Disclaimer, some of these have probably changed since I last flew the WSCOD.
Whats not to love? It's loud and cramped in the cockpit. It's got DV windows, but don't open them. It's got thrust reversers, but don't use them. Be sure to make a pitch trim input on takeoff, or you can lock up the stabilizer. The NWS can have a mind of it's own. The FMS is like a first generation Garmin, that won't really prepare you for using any other FMS. in existence. I've only had to declare three emergencies in my career, and all of them were in the 145, all resulted in landing with the masks and smoke goggles on. Absolutly my least favorite of all the jet's I've flown in my life, I won't cry, even a little when the last one is turned into a beer can. But thats just my opinion, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it. Bid whatever equipment and base will result in the best quality of life. |
You ever bang a girl and actually split second consider not pulling out because it's so much fun?
That's what flying the 145 is like. |
Originally Posted by HardLemonade
(Post 2637475)
You ever bang a girl and actually split second consider not pulling out because it's so much fun?
That's what flying the 145 is like. So your saying commit cuz it’s so fun!? Alright! |
Its POS period. Cant wait to get off it.
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2638348)
Its POS period. Cant wait to get off it.
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C’mon. Haters gonna hate.
.78 almost, rear lav for the walk of shame, last generation avionics and FMS, no onboard WiFi.What’s not to like?! As the salesman said to Clark Griswold, “ if you hate it now wait to you drive it!” I keed I keed. But the yokes are cool 😎 |
Originally Posted by Lahey
(Post 2638416)
You fly the 145?
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Originally Posted by Lahey
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You fly the 145?
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2638450)
Yes, Upgraded few months ago.
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I'll be honest, as a pax on the front left few seats, I love riding on it.
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Originally Posted by Lahey
(Post 2638524)
Nice! Congrats on the upgrade. Why aren’t you a fan of the 145?
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Originally Posted by Captain Kirk
(Post 2638417)
C’mon. Haters gonna hate.
.78 almost, rear lav for the walk of shame, last generation avionics and FMS, no onboard WiFi.What’s not to like?! As the salesman said to Clark Griswold, “ if you hate it now wait to you drive it!” I keed I keed. But the yokes are cool 😎 https://i.imgur.com/3eua7cW.jpg |
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
(Post 2638573)
Because he’s a child of the 175 and hates having to work on an airplane that makes him work.
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
(Post 2638573)
Because he’s a child of the 175 and hates having to work on an airplane that makes him work.
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
(Post 2638573)
Because he’s a child of the 175 and hates having to work on an airplane that makes him work.
This lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
you think flying the slimbraer is hard work huh?
it's a POS in many ways but that it makes you work hard is not one of them. |
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2640173)
you think flying the slimbraer is hard work huh?
it's a POS in many ways but that it makes you work hard is not one of them. |
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
(Post 2638573)
Because he’s a child of the 175 and hates having to work on an airplane that makes him work.
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 2640173)
you think flying the slimbraer is hard work huh?
it's a POS in many ways but that it makes you work hard is not one of them. |
The good news is FMS programming takes less than a minute.
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2639827)
Work smarter...not harder you numbnuts.
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
(Post 2640204)
What plane makes you work harder?
MD-80, 727s, Dash 8s, Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
(Post 2640204)
What plane makes you work harder?
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Originally Posted by RawHide
(Post 2640226)
The good news is FMS programming takes less than a minute.
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
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I wouldn't even call it an FMS. Its an old GPS with 1990 technology garbage.
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
(Post 2640291)
I wouldn't even call it an FMS. Its an old GPS with 1990 technology garbage.
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
(Post 2640341)
It’s a graphing calculator with a bigger screen.
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