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09-06-2018 | 11:18 AM
#31
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From: FO
09-06-2018 | 11:29 AM
#32
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Just to clarify, this was in reference to employees L7+ (directors and above) whom get positive space travel for leisure...essentially A1s to use instead of D2/D1s. This is part of their compensation (and they are taxed on it as income), and the company recognizes that they would loose a lot of talent if L7s+ lost this benefit, but he did absolutely say that the industry should never have offered the A1s to leadership back when it became industry standard back in the 1970s/1980s.
I can certainly be a critic of AAG, but they love these offering standby benefits...it allows them to offer less pay to all employees (management included), and just think if they did not want to offer the ability to commute...they would have to pay $25,000+ per employee every time they displaced.
I can certainly be a critic of AAG, but they love these offering standby benefits...it allows them to offer less pay to all employees (management included), and just think if they did not want to offer the ability to commute...they would have to pay $25,000+ per employee every time they displaced.
Btw thanks for the clarification.
09-06-2018 | 12:16 PM
#33
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Commuting is absolutely still a choice. Actually, the ability to commute to work is a perk of this particular industry. How many people in other jobs either have to quit their job or move to the new location when they have a forced job transfer? Millions of Americans deal with this issue every year. Plants and offices open, close, relocate, etc, all the time in other industries.
Pilots, thankfully, have the ability to jump on a plane and keep their job without moving the family should a similar issue arise.
Does commuting suck? Yes. Are job transfers and base closures difficult life changes? Yes. However, we actually have a job transfer protection in commuting as an advantage that most industries don’t provide. You want to get back your in-base QOL after a base reduction or closure? Then do what many Americans do and bite the bullet on a relocation.
My opinion comes from having commuted, then finally making the tough choice to relocate our family so I could be home more. We are saving up to relocate again to get to what we hope is our final stop here in the next few years. If that base closes though, I’ll probably be right back to commuting since that base is actually where we want to call home long term. That will be a CHOICE to commute vs. relocate again.
Pilots, thankfully, have the ability to jump on a plane and keep their job without moving the family should a similar issue arise.
Does commuting suck? Yes. Are job transfers and base closures difficult life changes? Yes. However, we actually have a job transfer protection in commuting as an advantage that most industries don’t provide. You want to get back your in-base QOL after a base reduction or closure? Then do what many Americans do and bite the bullet on a relocation.
My opinion comes from having commuted, then finally making the tough choice to relocate our family so I could be home more. We are saving up to relocate again to get to what we hope is our final stop here in the next few years. If that base closes though, I’ll probably be right back to commuting since that base is actually where we want to call home long term. That will be a CHOICE to commute vs. relocate again.
With the amount of base changes that many pilots/CC have to endure, free travel to work is a must.
One way the airlines could avoid the free travel, is to pay the TOTAL cost of a move every time one of their pilots/CC has to move...my uncle's moving allowance, from his new job in another city, way back in the late 1980s, was $70K...think any airlines want to pay upwards of $100k to cover their employees TOTAL moving expenses???
09-06-2018 | 07:32 PM
#34
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I live in base at lga. I like it. Been on reserve since early may. I dont mind it. Lower pay and less flying on reserve. But i get alot of weekends off now and almost never have to do anything haha.
09-07-2018 | 07:57 AM
#35
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Another pilot here I know has a side hustles and investments, he actually made more overall outside of aviation in investments and Business. So Rsv in base gave him a lot more time off to doing that. Proud of him.
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09-07-2018 | 01:02 PM
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Another pilot here I know has a side hustles and investments, he actually made more overall outside of aviation in investments and Business. So Rsv in base gave him a lot more time off to doing that. Proud of him.
“Where some see a problem, others see an opportunity. Timing is everything. “
-Me
“Where some see a problem, others see an opportunity. Timing is everything. “
-Me
09-08-2018 | 02:20 PM
#37
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Congratulations. Many of the reserve "lines" in NY are nice with several that have solid weekends off. Not like that in ORD. Did you bid reserve over any of the lines in September?
09-09-2018 | 08:00 AM
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It’s very simple. Now the key for quality of life is for the staffing not to be dog ****. Bid the transition conflict and get 12 hard days off. Pick up 4 juicy ot days during the 48 hr window. Don’t drive in for ot unless it meets your “worth it” threshold. For me that’s 4 hrs of flying or at least 6 hrs pay. Already Your looking at 99 hrs pay with 8 days off. But is it really only 8 days off? If your relatively senior I’d suggest bidding 4 am every day. You’ll have guys under you and at 10 am there will be more guys under you but your not going to be good for when the thunderstorms and **** has happened during the day. Hopefully you only actually work 9 of your work days. Now here’s the best part. It’s very difficult to be junior manned in this situation without it costing the company a lot. They can’t take you below 8 days off so in order to I’m they must give you a day off later in the month before you get a jm. Then you get your min 4 hrs straight pay and another return day to use no later than the end of the next month. Don’t forget to put in the rf 100 rtd code or your hosed on the return day. Enjoy your 99+ hr paycheck for 13 days of work. Granted you’ll be doing better as rsv seniority increases.
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