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Old 12-05-2018 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
You must have some inside knowledge that no one else has. Everyone doing R12 in 2019? Crazy!! Now I bet you are going to say we are going to do an extra day of sim too?

Don't be jealous, he is right with day 3 being EET or in layman terms extended envelope training.
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Old 12-05-2018 | 04:55 AM
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I think you missed Pedro's tongue-in-cheekness 😎
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Old 12-05-2018 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I was a late 2016 new hire and I did a schoolhouse sv/pv in November the following year.

After that, I went to recurrent in March or April of 2017 and at that point, they I still had to do a probationary ride along with recurrent. So another oral.

I think they do a “contractual” probation ride before the twelve months but the real one as far as they are concerned is when you do recurrent.
Got a contract reference? Pretty sure the contract says you’re off probation at the completion of 1 year of service and the “probation ride” is a company creation. Same goes for going into the CPO to “get off probation”. As far as the contract is concerned you’re off probation and have union protection at 12 months, hence the company’s “probie ride” typically being scheduled prior to 12 months while you are still fireable without union intervention.
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Old 12-05-2018 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DanRoman
Got a contract reference? Pretty sure the contract says you’re off probation at the completion of 1 year of service and the “probation ride” is a company creation. Same goes for going into the CPO to “get off probation”. As far as the contract is concerned you’re off probation and have union protection at 12 months, hence the company’s “probie ride” typically being scheduled prior to 12 months while you are still fireable without union intervention.
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Old 12-05-2018 | 07:32 AM
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The union has been helping many pilots still on probation facing termination or discipline matters.

The only difference is that if a termination does occur while on probation they can’t grieve and subsequently goto arbitration for a probationary Pilot.

In fact at the moment more probationary pilots are receiving union help than non probationary pilots.

Hope this clarifies a few things.
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Old 12-05-2018 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Grabo172
As far as I know, yes.
Minee was r24
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Old 12-05-2018 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Tried geiting some info on the general thread, but nothing definitive, so moving it here.

Has anyone done this probationary checkride, recently? I am getting conflicting info with respect to whether this is a full AQP re-qualification event, or if it is more of a SV/PV event.

This is nowhere near my base month, so it is being scheduled way in advance of when I would be due.

If anyone has gone through the process recently and can provide specific details of what is involved, study guidance, etc., those of us going through would appreciate it.

Yes, I did check the training section of the website. There is absolutely nothing about it listed there.

Thank you.

In the AQP Student Handbook, there's a list of contacts for the Training Dept./Planners. The planners usually notify you of your specific event (R12 vs R24) but if you didn't get it, try sending them an email. If no response, try sending an email to a training manager. They'd be able to help you figure out what you got.


If it so happens to be in 2019 and will be a full CQ, then yes, it will be the new CQ R12 2019. The AQP Student Handbook explains what that entails.
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Old 12-06-2018 | 04:02 PM
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Default 100 question test for new R12 2019

I’m curious what this looks like? Copy and paste of study guide questions perhaps?
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Old 12-06-2018 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001
My probie ride(hire date) a year ago was just an SV/PV at the school house. Then my recurrent was 4 months later. It was a pleasure having 3 orals in 12 months.

Others from my same sim class had their probie ride congruent with their first recurrent (six months early for some odd reason).
If they came in 6 months early it was probably a Special Tracking event due to an Unsat MV or LOE
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Old 12-07-2018 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Livingtofly89
I’m curious what this looks like? Copy and paste of study guide questions perhaps?
That would be to easy.....Got to study a little more this year.
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