Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2726120)

Don't discount the LCCs. Jetblue, Spirit, Allegiant and now Frontier. Those options can provide you a quick exit from Envoy and boost your resume with recent training and an Airbus type.

I left for Allegiant primarily to have the ability to drive to work. I got hired there at the right time and moved to the left seat of the Bus right at the 1 year mark. I updated all of my apps weekly from that point and eventually received a call from Delta. They hired me and at that time I had a little over 400 121 PIC. All in the Bus at Allegiant.

My time at Envoy helped with the resume but I had planned to stay long term at Allegiant and never thought Delta would look at me so early. During the interview, they were impressed with the recency of my training. Initial at Allegiant in the Bus and upgrade 1 year later.

All that to say. Don't bank on this flow. And don't discount the LCCs. Once I had transitioned to Allegiant, the treatment of the pilot group was far more professional than anything I ever had at Envoy.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2726086)

Eh?
There's quite a few Envoy guys going to AA outside the flow.

Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2726120)

Don't discount the LCCs. Jetblue, Spirit, Allegiant and now Frontier. Those options can provide you a quick exit from Envoy and boost your resume with recent training and an Airbus type.

I left for Allegiant primarily to have the ability to drive to work. I got hired there at the right time and moved to the left seat of the Bus right at the 1 year mark. I updated all of my apps weekly from that point and eventually received a call from Delta. They hired me and at that time I had a little over 400 121 PIC. All in the Bus at Allegiant.

My time at Envoy helped with the resume but I had planned to stay long term at Allegiant and never thought Delta would look at me so early. During the interview, they were impressed with the recency of my training. Initial at Allegiant in the Bus and upgrade 1 year later.

All that to say. Don't bank on this flow. And don't discount the LCCs. Once I had transitioned to Allegiant, the treatment of the pilot group was far more professional than anything I ever had at Envoy.

Originally Posted by mketch11 (Post 2726197)

If you don’t mind me asking, how long did it take you to get to Delta? Assuming you started at Envoy? And what was you total time when you got to delta as well?

Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2726207)

Came to Envoy as a CFI only with 1600 hours. Slightly under 2 at Envoy, slightly under 2 at Allegiant. Hired at Delta a little over 4k. 4 year. Habitat for Humanity on the res. Volunteered on safety committee at Allegiant as well.

Best thing about moving to an LCC is big time improvement in QOL and large pay bump from Envoy. Getting "stuck" there wouldn't have been the end of the world.

Originally Posted by Rakk6 (Post 2726019)

If he did get picked up by AA, then E175Driver got picked up without 121 PIC time and relatively short time in 121 world. My belief was that this is not common. Anyone else know of someone with same/similar experience getting to a legacy carrier without 121 PIC time? If so, what's the magic formula?

Originally Posted by Smutter (Post 2726189)

Not sure where you get that from, but actually no, it's quite a small number

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2726265)

Just under 20 and trending higher. It's not an insignificant number. Getting close to 10% of flows.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2726265)

Just under 20 and trending higher. It's not an insignificant number. Getting close to 10% of flows.

Originally Posted by dera (Post 2726265)

Just under 20 and trending higher. It's not an insignificant number. Getting close to 10% of flows.