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MD-11Loader 02-06-2019 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2758206)
Your saying this is the same hull as a crj700 but with 50 seats?

Old airplanes sent to bombardier to get new cabin configurations?

That’s exactly what it appears to be. They want them in the second half of 2019, there’s no way Bombardier could get a new type built, and certified that quickly. The renderings look pretty cool, but it seems like it will bleed cash.

BigZ 02-06-2019 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2758206)
Your saying this is the same hull as a crj700 but with 50 seats?

Old airplanes sent to bombardier to get new cabin configurations?

Yup. With the 175s coming to ExpressJet 25 CRJ700s from GoJet had to be parked. Then someone came up with this brilliant idea.

havick206 02-06-2019 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by SilentLurker (Post 2758159)
It’s a new Hull people... launched by Bombardier... 3 class cabin. Bigger overhead bins, performance, etc.


Take a quick read and view.... https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/...ers-50-planes/

Check our Bombardier Commercial website... https://commercialaircraft.bombardie...eater-aircraft

Ever heard of an STC?

TransWorld 02-06-2019 11:15 AM

Why does this seem to be reposted on almost every folder I am looking at? Wouldn’t one general post be adequate?

KSCessnaDriver 02-06-2019 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2758138)
They are new hulls apparently, you wouldn't need to work with Bombardier to reconfigure a current 700.

It's not a new hull. Bombardier has to be involved to create the STC to re-certify the aircraft to only 50 seats for scope.

ninerdriver 02-06-2019 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2758259)
Why does this seem to be reposted on almost every folder I am looking at? Wouldn’t one general post be adequate?

Because:
- The announcement came from left field.
- The announcement instantly removed one (maybe two?) regionals from death row and instantly put one (maybe two?) other regionals on it.
- AA and DL probably will play copycat. Who knows how that will change the regional playing field?

The announcement is a game-changer. Everyone flying for a regional ultimately is playing that same game. We're all taking notice.

MD-11Loader 02-06-2019 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 2758333)
Because:
- The announcement came from left field.
- The announcement instantly removed one (maybe two?) regionals from death row and instantly put one (maybe two?) other regionals on it.
- AA and DL probably will play copycat. Who knows how that will change the regional playing field?

The announcement is a game-changer. Everyone flying for a regional ultimately is playing that same game. We're all taking notice.

The question is whether AA can afford to play copycat and fall further behind an already expanding revenue gap between DL and UA.

ninerdriver 02-06-2019 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2758349)
The question is whether AA can afford to play copycat and fall further behind an already expanding revenue gap between DL and UA.

That's the point when Parker buys another airline, amirite?

pitchattitude 02-06-2019 01:55 PM

It sounds like it is NOT a new type as it has commonality with the others. But it sounds like these are new purchase aircraft. They may be a change of 700s that we’re already on order. Whether or not any others get reconfigured is yet to be seen.

And for what it’s worth, when RW was talking about getting rid of the CRJs, he said AA was looking for a new 50 seater, but there was nothing out there unless Bombardier did something else with the CRJ. Maybe he was speculating, maybe he knew something.

KodiakRS 02-06-2019 04:43 PM

Not the first time this has happened. There's a 70 seat max version of the CRJ 900 out there known as a CRJ 705. Now there's a 50 seat max version of the CRJ 700/701/702 known as the CRJ 550.

Apparently ALPA once successfully argued that removing seats and arbitrarily restricting MTOW doesn't qualify for being a smaller airplane with regards to scope. But if you take the airplane and get it re-certified as a type with lower MTOW and max seating capacity it does.

Also, AirCanada is currently having bombardier convert their 705s to 900s with an appropriate change in type. So it's reasonable to believe the FAA would let Gojets get some of their 700s re-certified as 550s.


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