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Pedro4President 03-27-2019 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2790342)
Ah, OK. I misunderstood the question. In your case, if you want OCE, just put OCE at the top of your 3P and 3D. I don't think there's any way a proffer to displace will help you.

A proffer to displace would work better than the 3D in this specific case. A PTD in this case he would be able to hold his seniority since its not a 15G4.

highfarfast 03-27-2019 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2790896)
Does someone from your status have to be displaced in order for you to get the proffer to displace? Or could an LGA 145 FO proffer to displace over a CRJ ORD FO?

To the first question, someone else being displace FROM your status has nothing to do with you at all.

To the second question, all these current bids, no FO is going to displace another FO. Not until they actually run a true displacement for closing down the CRJ operation anyway.

highfarfast 03-27-2019 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2790899)
A proffer to displace would work better than the 3D in this specific case. A PTD in this case he would be able to hold his seniority since its not a 15G4.

He's already a captain though, so they're not going to look at a PTD from him... I don't think so anyway. In any case, if they did they're not going to displace a junior pilot for a PTD so he's not going to get anything a 3P would get him anyway.

A true displacement is not likely for him but it is theoretically possible for a senior upgrading FO to displace him from his position, thus his 3D settings come into play, and in that case, they'll displace a junior pilot.

Irregardless, we should all have or 3D settings set anyway.

moon 03-27-2019 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2790915)
To the first question, someone else being displace FROM your status has nothing to do with you at all.

To the second question, all these current bids, no FO is going to displace another FO. Not until they actually run a true displacement for closing down the CRJ operation anyway.

I don't think your first statement is true. Proffer to displace has everything to do with someone in your status being displaced. When they displace all the CRJ pilots it doesn't allow any other pilots to proffer to displace in place of them. It is Status driven.

highfarfast 03-27-2019 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by moon (Post 2791012)
I don't think your first statement is true. Proffer to displace has everything to do with someone in your status being displaced. When they displace all the CRJ pilots it doesn't allow any other pilots to proffer to displace in place of them. It is Status driven.

You and I are reading the union emails differently then.

And I'm not referring to when they actually get around to displacing all the CRJ pilots through a real displacement. I'm referring to the bid coming up which may go through the same vacancy, proffer to displace, 15 G 4 process we've been doing for over a year now.

Varsity 03-27-2019 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2791143)
You and I are reading the union emails differently then.

And I'm not referring to when they actually get around to displacing all the CRJ pilots through a real displacement. I'm referring to the bid coming up which may go through the same vacancy, proffer to displace, 15 G 4 process we've been doing for over a year now.

Why are there so many DFL vacancies? Where do they expect these people to come from OFL? OFE? OFC?

dragongoliath 03-27-2019 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2791318)
Why are there so many DFL vacancies? Where do they expect these people to come from OFL? OFE? OFC?

New hire classes

CheckWheelsDown 03-27-2019 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by dragongoliath (Post 2791333)
New hire classes

So, 3-4 months reserve OFL and the new hire classes are being given DFL with ~12 months reserve. What's the reasoning behind that?

Varsity 03-27-2019 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by CheckWheelsDown (Post 2791413)
So, 3-4 months reserve OFL and the new hire classes are being given DFL with ~12 months reserve. What's the reasoning behind that?

Makes no sense.

"The guys up the road are getting a line in 4mo, but we're gonna put you down here where you'll sit for a year"

oh. ok..

havick206 03-27-2019 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2791458)
Makes no sense.

"The guys up the road are getting a line in 4mo, but we're gonna put you down here where you'll sit for a year"

oh. ok..

Can always trade bases. Don’t see what the big deal is.


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