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ERAUAV8TR 03-06-2019 05:05 PM

Profit Sharing
 
Profit Sharing is up...seems smaller each year.

Jamesthunder 03-06-2019 05:25 PM

It's 1.4%, down from 2% from last year. At some point the shareholders will force the CEO out.

dera 03-06-2019 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesthunder (Post 2776460)
It's 1.4%, down from 2% from last year. At some point the shareholders will force the CEO out.

Are you getting dividends and profit sharing mixed up?

SoFloFlyer 03-06-2019 08:40 PM

What’s the difference in profit sharing from Envoy to AA mainline? Buddy of mine showed me his profit sharing from mainline and it was seriously disappointing. You’d think that mainline would get more than $1500.

Jamesthunder 03-06-2019 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2776469)
Are you getting dividends and profit sharing mixed up?

No, if you search profit sharing in jetnet there are articles referring to this year and last year. The article for 2017 says 2%, this year's says 1.4%.

Hell if you want to talk dividends, AAL has a yield of 1.2%. $0.10 per quarter, you can find some much better places to put your money than AAL. No growth to the dividend, share price has lost 40% in the last year without the recovery seen in other legacy carriers. DAL down 7% in the last year, UAL up 26% in the last year.

The CEO will answer to the share holders at some point if the operation can't churn butter.

Jamesthunder 03-06-2019 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2776590)
What’s the difference in profit sharing from Envoy to AA mainline? Buddy of mine showed me his profit sharing from mainline and it was seriously disappointing. You’d think that mainline would get more than $1500.

According to the profit sharing article, it's 1.4% across the company. Assuming he made around 150-170k, that's about what it would be after taxes, union dues and 401k.

Different companies pay different amounts, I hear stories about Delta guys getting 60K.

SoFloFlyer 03-08-2019 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesthunder (Post 2776621)
According to the profit sharing article, it's 1.4% across the company. Assuming he made around 150-170k, that's about what it would be after taxes, union dues and 401k.

Different companies pay different amounts, I hear stories about Delta guys getting 60K.

Sounds like Delta is the place to be

Cyio 03-09-2019 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2778272)
Sounds like Delta is the place to be

I am not going to complain about free money, but AA has some of the lowest profit sharing out there. Delta has an amazing system.

wiz5422 03-09-2019 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2778272)
Sounds like Delta is the place to be

AA is a scary place right now, a very underwhelming contract, and profit sharing. Increasing debt with shrinking profits, Plus a shrinking airline ( go read the August vacancy thread over on AA thread)
I don't have high hopes for their upcoming negotiations either.

SoFloFlyer 03-09-2019 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2778674)
AA is a scary place right now, a very underwhelming contract, and profit sharing. Increasing debt with shrinking profits, Plus a shrinking airline ( go read the August vacancy thread over on AA thread)
I don't have high hopes for their upcoming negotiations either.

You’d think that mass retirements would at least protect pilots on property from the worse case scenario, a furlough.. so maybe there’s that?


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