Envoy’s new hire training
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy. I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training. My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time? What can I do now to increase my success in training? I look forward to your response - |
Originally Posted by pilotdude101
(Post 2795346)
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy. I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training. My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time? What can I do now to increase my success in training? I look forward to your response - Get IFR experience. You will not do well in any 121 program if you are not IFR proficient. |
Originally Posted by pilotdude101
(Post 2795346)
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy. I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training. My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time? What can I do now to increase my success in training? I look forward to your response - Doesn’t matter what operator. Do you have the 75 hours instrument required for the ATP? Definitely need to be instrument proficient and should be current. |
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 2795396)
Almost everything is instrument EHSI with a flight director. Jepp approach plates.
Doesn’t matter what operator. Do you have the 75 hours instrument required for the ATP? Definitely need to be instrument proficient and should be current. |
Originally Posted by pilotdude101
(Post 2795399)
I do have the 75 hours required for the ATP. I’m not instrument current but I do plan on getting current and doing a couple hours in an FTD with an CFII before training.
And if you haven’t spent much time in actual IFR conditions, I would recommend that as well. |
The training is mostly memorizing flows, multiengine procedures (single engine go arounds and stuff), then tons of ifr. 100% of daily airline ops are ifr, so you need to be sharp on ifr skills.
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Originally Posted by pilotdude101
(Post 2795346)
Hello gets,
New member here. I’ve just reached ATP mins and have some questions about training at Envoy. I’ve reached my 1500 hours teaching mostly private pilot students in Cessna 172s. I do not have my CFII and have very little IFR experience besides my IR training. My question is, how much harder will training be for a person like me with very little IFR time? What can I do now to increase my success in training? I look forward to your response - |
I have no dog in the fight but to play devils advocate here. How did all the pilots make it through training back in the early 2000s when they did ATPs 90 day program and got hired at 250hrs? A lot of those pilots went straight into flying VOR and NDB approaches with 50ish hours of IFR time in a piston.
I'm not saying its smart or safe but I think its just like every other demographic of pilot "it depends on the person". |
Originally Posted by Rotor2prop
(Post 2796253)
I have no dog in the fight but to play devils advocate here. How did all the pilots make it through training back in the early 2000s when they did ATPs 90 day program and got hired at 250hrs? A lot of those pilots went straight into flying VOR and NDB approaches with 50ish hours of IFR time in a piston.
I'm not saying its smart or safe but I think its just like every other demographic of pilot "it depends on the person". Just a hunch, I could be wrong |
For anyone trying to pass a 121 new hire training (any airline), here is the secret sauce:
Attitude, show up hungry to learn. You gotta want to learn not only the plane but the company too. Study, lots and lots. Here is how: note cards. Write out the notecards. The act of writing will be another time you see the specific details. Doing the cards over and over again will help. After that quiz and be quizzed by classmates. Get sleep, don’t stay up all night. If your tired you will only waste your own time as you won’t learn squat. Excercise, not crazy but a little goes a long way. Eat decent food. Burger King has bent many new hires over and railed them. Doesn’t gotta be super vegan BS. Just decent, like leave it to beaver. Have a beer, A Beer! Not The Whole darn 6 pack. Seriously have a beer, not kidding, I’m encouraging a drink. Study some more, be an expert. Lastly, ask good questions in class and stay engaged. This will be of tremendous benefit for everyone. Best of luck |
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