Junior lineholders
05-07-2019, 02:03 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by bzubrod
I'm trying to make go/no-go decisions on who to interview with and I'm looking for some info on training dates and reserve. How quickly are guys getting training dates after hiring and what are reserve times looking like at junior bases?
Reserve right now is 2 months in DFW 175, and 6 months in ORD 145. These are moving targets so YMMV. The base/equipment assignment is russian roulette. You either get lucky, or you don't.
05-07-2019, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
Very quick class dates, 2-4 weeks after job offer.
Reserve right now is 2 months in DFW 175, and 6 months in ORD 145. These are moving targets so YMMV. The base/equipment assignment is russian roulette. You either get lucky, or you don't.
Reserve right now is 2 months in DFW 175, and 6 months in ORD 145. These are moving targets so YMMV. The base/equipment assignment is russian roulette. You either get lucky, or you don't.
You must be a recruiter.
05-07-2019, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
No its not.
You must be a recruiter.
You must be a recruiter.
11/5/2018 hire got BLK 237 for May. That's a CMP line. Hard line (blk 170) went to a 9/24/2018 hire.
05-07-2019, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
And you must be stupid. Or just have hard time with facts.
11/5/2018 hire got BLK 237 for May. That's a CMP line. Hard line (blk 170) went to a 9/24/2018 hire.
11/5/2018 hire got BLK 237 for May. That's a CMP line. Hard line (blk 170) went to a 9/24/2018 hire.
I count 9.
05-07-2019, 04:15 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by Varsity
September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May.
I count 9.
I count 9.
And you're counting May? He got a line FOR May.
When you were in school, did you ride a bus that was considerably shorter than the bus other kids rode?
Is it 12-18?
And CMP went 6 months. That's a line.
05-08-2019, 09:47 AM
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Trying to definitively state reserve times is like trying to nail jello to the ceiling.
There are so many moving parts to determine that bickering over 6-9 months is really pointless. Bases will gain lines and lose lines. All the forced upgrades will come from one base for a couple months causing that base to have rapid movement, while the rest stagnate. People will transfer from one base to another to chase a line. In six months, who knows, maybe everything will flip and suddenly MIA will have all the new FOs and the bottom ORD guy will be on reserve for 12 months.
The bottom line is that Envoy keeps about 350 reserve FOs in the system. Each month has about 50 new hires and 50 people leaving. So, you should probably expect 7 months of reserve. If it's less, consider yourself lucky. If it's more, consider yourself Envoy'd.
There are so many moving parts to determine that bickering over 6-9 months is really pointless. Bases will gain lines and lose lines. All the forced upgrades will come from one base for a couple months causing that base to have rapid movement, while the rest stagnate. People will transfer from one base to another to chase a line. In six months, who knows, maybe everything will flip and suddenly MIA will have all the new FOs and the bottom ORD guy will be on reserve for 12 months.
The bottom line is that Envoy keeps about 350 reserve FOs in the system. Each month has about 50 new hires and 50 people leaving. So, you should probably expect 7 months of reserve. If it's less, consider yourself lucky. If it's more, consider yourself Envoy'd.
