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ERAUAV8TR 05-03-2019 02:23 PM

AE Performance Bonus Award
 
Did anyone get the AE Performance Bonus Award? I can’t ever remember not getting it, even if it was just a small part. Where is the communication on why we didn’t get? Last I knew is we were hitting our marks. Strange! Did the criteria change? Any information?

moon 05-03-2019 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2813778)
Did anyone get the AE Performance Bonus Award? I can’t ever remember not getting it, even if it was just a small part. Where is the communication on why we didn’t get? Last I knew is we were hitting our marks. Strange! Did the criteria change? Any information?

No crew got it. New metrics on turn times. Missed it all 3 months. Envoyed!

Varsity 05-03-2019 03:14 PM

They changed it to the T0 times, which is completely impossible to achieve (25minute turns in the 145, 30 in CRJ/175) considering everyone stands in the jet bridge for half an hour waiting on the piedmont rampers to unload the valet checked bags. Hence they no longer have to pay it out.

Typical Envoy.

pitchattitude 05-03-2019 06:44 PM

I thought it was pretty ridiculous when Envoy put out the latest version of optimized boarding. It is hard enough to make the extended turn times at a hub, let alone the shorter ones at an out station. Rather than building in more time in the schedule which would allow a catch up if a previous flight was late, it now makes all subsequent flights late.

BUT, since Mesa couldn’t make its times, AAG gave them more block time. See article and quote from it below.

https://skift.com/2019/02/05/american-airlines-warns-one-of-its-regional-airlines-to-improve/

American also will schedule more block time for many Mesa flights, a move that should allow Mesa to pad on-time performance. Flights that had been slated as late could now arrive on-time, according to DOT guidelines.

But Envoy would rather just take away performance bonuses from employees. Another example of tripping over dollars to save dimes and hurting themselves rather than helping themselves since they would have to reward the employees.

moon 05-03-2019 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2813917)
I thought it was pretty ridiculous when Envoy put out the latest version of optimized boarding. It is hard enough to make the extended turn times at a hub, let alone the shorter ones at an out station. Rather than building in more time in the schedule which would allow a catch up if a previous flight was late, it now makes all subsequent flights late.

BUT, since Mesa couldn’t make its times, AAG gave them more block time. See article and quote from it below.

https://skift.com/2019/02/05/american-airlines-warns-one-of-its-regional-airlines-to-improve/

American also will schedule more block time for many Mesa flights, a move that should allow Mesa to pad on-time performance. Flights that had been slated as late could now arrive on-time, according to DOT guidelines.

But Envoy would rather just take away performance bonuses from employees. Another example of tripping over dollars to save dimes and hurting themselves rather than helping themselves since they would have to reward the employees.

That sounds like a raise for MESA pilots too. Pad our times!

smtx123 05-03-2019 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2813808)
They changed it to the T0 times, which is completely impossible to achieve (25minute turns in the 145, 30 in CRJ/175) considering everyone stands in the jet bridge for half an hour waiting on the piedmont rampers to unload the valet checked bags. Hence they no longer have to pay it out.

Typical Envoy.

They’re planning less than 30 min turns on the 175 now. Had a few 25 min turns last month.

NoValueAviator 05-04-2019 05:07 AM

Pay cut. Lol

3GreenKSNA 05-04-2019 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by smtx123 (Post 2813955)
They’re planning less than 30 min turns on the 175 now. Had a few 25 min turns last month.

Not sure how that's even possible. Both inbound and outbound planes full, a couple of wheel chairs, running out of overhead bin space, all of these can blow the 30 minute turn time out the window.

Other than a new tagline does anyone know what the definition is of this new "optimized boarding?"

-Keep the dirty side down

pangolin 05-04-2019 05:28 AM

Optimized boarding means send pax during cleanup and preflight. Pax can be sent when catering and cleaners are on board.

bigtime209 05-04-2019 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 2814045)
Optimized boarding means send pax during cleanup and preflight. Pax can be sent when catering and cleaners are on board.

And that's IF they even get cleaners a chance to get onboard. I've had flight after flight after flight go out with an absolutely filthy airplane because they don't want to hold boarding and give the cleaners a chance to clean the cabin. Embarrassing.


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